Infiltrating Armies

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**Irdiumstern**

Lately, I've been trying to work out an army relying to a great degree on infiltrate. Of course, not many armies are even capable of that.

So far I've considered:
IG: Al-Rahm and Harker, but I already have an IG army
Space Marines: large amounts of scouts, but I can't seem to think of a good way to support/utilize them
Black Templars: Sword Bretheren and command squads, using crusader squads and some Predators for fire support
Tyranids: Stealers and Pods

But none of these have struck me as ideal yet. So, does anyone have any ideas or experience running an army that takes advantage of deploying almost anywhere on the table?

**Henners91**

I was beaten by a very cheesy Blood Angels army that arrived almost entirely on jump packs and assaulted the turn they deepstruck.

Now, I liked the guy that was playing me... so I didn't give him a phat slap, but if you don't mind a bruised cheek; Blood Angels?

**Irdiumstern**

I'm not really interested in a primarily deep striking force, mostly due to the randomness and inconsistency of arrival.
Infiltrate is pretty much the opposite, as you can pick exactly where your units arrive, and are able to use them fully straight away.

Now, some DS support is something I'm considering, but I want the main focus to be on infiltration. Too bad I haven't found an army yet that can do quite what I want.

**dayve110**

Eldar?

Outflanking scorpions (wave serpent optional)
infiltrating scorpions
Outflanking war walker squadrens
Infiltrating pathfinders/rangers

Being a relativly fast army, any back-up you take thats mounted in a vehicle will get to where you need them quickly.
Also reapers could be decent support as the reaper Exarch can take a tempest launcher and crack shot. Meaning you get a barrage weapon that is AP3, ignores cover and re-rolls to wound.

**teh unforgiven**

DA ravenwing?

-Sammael - Jetbike With plasma cannon
-scouting bike squadrons
-lots of land speeders and some people say they are scroring when divide their attack squadron to combat squads

or maybe dark eldar?

i dont know what they have...

**Footsloggin**

As far as infiltrate goes, Scouts are nice, cheap, and can take down mech. However, I suggest 5 mounted in a Land Speeder Storm, with a multi-melta, with one scout with a meltagun... Actually, I run two. Then I Infiltrate 2 Scout-Squads with Telion in one somewhere where the enemy will likely have me rolling 3+ or 2+ cover saves thanks to Camo-Cloaks and Telions ability... Then I have 2 CC Scout squads that infiltrate nearby objectives, and hold them by sitting in cover and firing at threats with I5+ Grenade, while the Snipers help pick off I5+ Grenade Threats. The list works well... Just fill it out with what you want.

**Sir Pseudonymous**

the unforgiven wrote:
or maybe dark eldar?

i dont know what they have...

Deldar only have mandrakes and one unique character with infiltrate, though all their vehicles can deepstrike either by default (the razorwing and voidraven), or through taking Duke Sliscus or buying retrofire jets for venoms, raiders, and ravagers. They've also got webway portals, but that's only a little better than deepstriking: you don't scatter, you can move and assault, but you enter the board from one particular spot, rather than coming in anywhere.

**Footsloggin**

Oh yes, and I forgot to mention that I also run 7 Scout bikers with a Libby, with avenger, and quickening. The sergeant in the CC squads and Scout biker squad have powerfists. I have 2 Techmarines, one of which is on a bike, both have servo harnessees. These are here to support the CC squads by bolstering their cover to allow them to sustain the fire. One is with the CC squads, the other is with the Scout Bikes. All of this comes to 1500 Points exactly. With over 50% of my army Infiltrating, and 0% Deep-Striking.

**schadenfreude**

Alpha Legion infiltrating CSM troops

Infiltrating cultists as troops

Infiltrating Havocs as heavy support

Chaos Codex 3.5

No legal list for Alpha Legion since the 4th ed chaos codex came out

**wuestenfux**

I'm not really interested in a primarily deep striking force, mostly due to the randomness and inconsistency of arrival.

Not true. Try a DoA army.
Two third of the army arrives in turn 2 and the units arrive where you want them.
Vanguard Vets can charge upon arrival if within 6''.
I never got problems to place my units correctly.

**Henners91**

What on earth is DoA?

**Chaos Lord Gir**

Henners91 wrote:What on earth is DoA?

Descent of Angels

Its just the BA's very annoy rule which just pops them down with only 1D6" scatter.

**Henners91**

Neurgh...

I've played BAs once and seen them play a good couple of times.

Almost entirely a deepstruck army (Assault Marines with Sanguinary Priests).

The most blatantly imbalanced one-sided battles I have ever seen included that army and I'm not really one to whine, in the hobby for the fun of painting and the fluff really.

But whoever wrote that codex needs his soul fed to Slaanesh...

**sennacherib**

stealers.
you could take 6 x 15 swarms of stealers and a winged hive tyrant for 15pts, add in some ymgarl and youve got a 1750.

**Mustela**

Scouts w/ Shrike = Scout Alpha Strike.

**Cjc1223**

I'd go stealer shock backed up by MCs

**schadenfreude**

Henners91 wrote:Neurgh...

I've played BAs once and seen them play a good couple of times.

Almost entirely a deepstruck army (Assault Marines with Sanguinary Priests).

The most blatantly imbalanced one-sided battles I have ever seen included that army and I'm not really one to whine, in the hobby for the fun of painting and the fluff really.

But whoever wrote that codex needs his soul fed to Slaanesh...

2 tricks.

Always chose to go 2nd, going 1st does no good against doa especially in an objective based game.
Pop smoke on the turn before ba reserves come in, deep striking minimal scatter melta guns are a lot less scary once smoke is popped.

**odorofdeath**

also even though they Deepstrike accurately, they can't assault that turn. So you have a whole turn to show them the business end of your boomstick xD

**ruminator**

I'm always a fan of 60+ genestealers with rending claws and broodlords causing early carnage ...

**Pyro-Druid**

As mentioned Eldar can do it. For a 100% infiltrating army this is the cheepest Eldar can go:

Karandras - 215pts
5x Rangers - 95pts
5x Rangers - 95pts
Total: 405pts

Fill out with Scorpions and Rangers/Pathfinders and you're good to go. If you don't mind deep striking, then an Autarch or two with some fast attack will flesh it out alot more.

Personally I like the idea of it, my current list has me putting down no more than 2 units during deployment, haven't had enough of a play with it to say exactly how effective it is.

**Juvieus Kaine**

If you want to know about scout armies, look up greatcrusade08 on the Bolter&Chainsword forum - he's done a scout army and pretty much knows the ins and outs of them.

**Irdiumstern**

Juvieus Kaine wrote:If you want to know about scout armies, look up greatcrusade08 on the Bolter&Chainsword forum - he's done a scout army and pretty much knows the ins and outs of them.

Thanks, this guy really seems to know what he's talking about.

**Footsloggin**

Ya, I just read through it too, thank you Kaine! Looks like ill be adjusting my list some...

**Juvieus Kaine**

Footsloggin wrote:Ya, I just read through it too, thank you Kaine! Looks like ill be adjusting my list some...

You're very welcome good sir