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Rune Priest-115
-Chooser of the Slain
-Wolf Tail Talisman
-Living Lightning
-Tempest's Wrath

Rune Priest-103
-Storm Bolter
-Murderous Hurricane
-Jaws of the World Wolf

2x 5 Wolf Scouts-125
-Mark of the Wolfen
-Meltagun
-5 Melta Bombs

4 Wolf Guard-152
-2 Combi-Melta
-2 Power Fist
-2 Combi-Flamer
-2 Power Sword

2x 5 Grey Hunters-100
-Flamer
-Wolf Standard
-Mark of the Wulfen

2x 9 Grey Hunters-165
-Meltagun
-Wolf Standard
-Mark of the Wolfen

6 Long Fangs-130
-3 Misslie Launcher
-2 Heavy Bolter

2x Rhino

2x Las/Plas Razorback-75

The 2 WG with combi flamers and power swords Go with the 2, 5 man GH squads.
OK dakka what ya think?


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o yeah the army is 1500 on the dot.

I guess i did a good job.

Really like it tbh. Quite different from lists Ive been running and am surprised how much you managed to pack into it.
Im actually going to try this out next game

Only thing I'd suggest would be dropping a unit of scouts for a HW Dread.?At the moment for long range anti AV14 you have 2 las on the preds?

Also where are the RPs going to go, by my math your vehicles are full? Do they stay backfield with the LFs?

For the points level I think its a little low on range fire power but otherwise looks good.

Nice to see a SW non-star list.

Ga.

Ratius- The people i normaly play with dont run alot of armour so im not to worryed about higher end AV, but ill look into try out a dread or 2. And the Long Fangs stay in the back for the most part.

Hamani- same as above.

Any other Ideas Dakka?

This would be the list i would use if i took out one of the scout units.

Rune Priest-115
-Chooser of the Slain
-Living Lightning
-Tempest's Wrath

Rune Priest-103
-Storm Bolter
-Murderous Hurricane
-Jaws of the World Wolf

5 Wolf Scouts-125
-Mark of the Wolfen
-Meltagun
-5 Melta Bombs

4 Wolf Guard-152
-2 Combi-Melta
-2 Power Fist
-2 Combi-Flamer
-2 Power Sword

2x 5 Grey Hunters-100
-Flamer
-Wolf Standard
-Mark of the Wulfen

2x 9 Grey Hunters-165
-Meltagun
-Wolf Standard
-Mark of the Wolfen

2x 6 Long Fangs-130
-3 Misslie Launcher
-2 Heavy Bolter

2x Rhino

2x Las/Plas Razorback-75

What do we Think?

It definitely looks playable, but I don't think those tiny packs in the Razorbacks need a Wolf Standard and Mark of the Wulfen because they should avoid melee at all costs. They are basically there to bust tanks or deal with small infantry squads if absolutely necessary, and primarily they should just be holding objectives. Additionally I think the large packs of Grey Hunters should have Wolf Guard with Power Fists and Combi-Meltas as well as the Wolf Scouts, and the Rune Priests need a place to ride so you need to drop one model from each pack (They can't fire from the Razorbacks so the Rhinos are a better place for them).

Rune Priest (Chooser, Meltabombs, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane) - 115
Rune Priest (Meltabombs, Murderous Hurricane, Tempest's Wrath) - 105
6 Wolf Guard (4 Power Fists, 6 Combi-Meltas) - 218
5 Wolf Scouts (Meltagun, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltabombs) - 125
5 Wolf Scouts (Meltagun, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltabombs) - 125
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Mark of the Wulfen, Rhino) - 185
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Mark of the Wulfen, Rhino) - 185
5 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Razorback w/ LasPlas) - 155
5 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Razorback w/ LasPlas) - 155
6 Long Fangs (3 Missile Launchers, 2 heavy Bolters) - 130
Total 1,498

The reason for the power Fists is in case you run into Monstrous Creatures or Dreadnoughts, so you don't find yourself up a creek without a paddle. I also prefer double Murderous Hurricane when taking two Rune Priests because I think the ability to control enemy movement is quite powerful and well worth having. Jaws of the World Wolf on the other hand is only ever useful against low initiative MC's or possibly Nob Bikers and whatnot, so I rarely find a use for it. Other than those few little changes, the list is basically the same. I like it.

Aldarionn-I will try that out.

Also i could take out the scout squads for some land speeders, for tank hunding. I like the sound of having 2 Multi Melta per speeder.

Aldarionn wrote:Jaws of the World Wolf on the other hand is only ever useful against low initiative MC's or possibly Nob Bikers and whatnot, so I rarely find a use for it.

Very solid advice. Thanks!

If you take Land Speeders its usually better to have a Multi-Melta and a Heavy Flamer, giving them some duality. With just Multi-Meltas they are wasted on a Tyranid list for instance. Sure they can put a wound or two on MC's before getting blown up, but with a Heavy Flamer they would do much more damage.

2-3 Land Speeders with Multi-Meltas and Heavy Flamers make for some decent fast attack choices, and you would only need to drop one pack of Wolf Scouts to fit them.

I think i will add 3 Land Speeders with MM/HF. O and on a funny side note i once blew up 2 chaos rhinos with a heavy flamer.

Looking at the original list, I'd say you should probably switch the give the 9 man squads the flamers and the 5 man squads the meltas. The flamer squads are going to have more attacks in combat, and coupled with the flamers, will do a good amount of damage against weaker CC opponents like Boyz and guardsmen. The melta squads don;t need a whole lot of CC attacks if they're going to run around popping armor. The 2 Melta weapons and the lascannon should be enough against most targets.

True sir, but for the most part i have not had a problem, but i will try it out to see what works.

OK.... what does the killing? The grey hunters? They will fold to any real CC unit. If you want a CC unit trim the fat off the GH and take a couple of TWC units, they perform FAR better for the points invested.

I like Thunder Wolfs but thats not the type of list im going for.

Rune Priest-100
-Living Lightning
-Tempest's Wrath

Rune Priest-103
-Storm Bolter
-Murderous Hurricane
-Jaws of the World Wolf

5 Wolf Scouts-125
-Mark of the Wolfen
-Meltagun
-5 Melta Bombs

4 Wolf Guard-152
-2 Combi-Melta
-2 Power Fist
-2 Combi-Flamer
-2 Power Sword

2x 5 Grey Hunters-100
-Flamer
-Wolf Standard
-Mark of the Wulfen

2x 9 Grey Hunters-165
-Meltagun
-Wolf Standard
-Mark of the Wolfen

Land Speeder+70
-Multi Melta
-Heavy Flamer

Land Speeder+70
-Multi Melta
-Heavy Flamer

6 Long Fangs-130
-3 Misslie Launcher
-2 Heavy Bolter

2x Rhino

2x Las/Plas Razorback-75

Ok how bout this?

You still have your pack sizes a little messed up. The Rune Priests need to ride with the large packs of Grey Hunters, but as your list stands right now NONE of your transports have room for them. You have 5 Grey Hunters, presumably with two of the Wolf Guard attached, in Razorbacks which leaves no room, and you have 9 Grey Hunters, presumably with two of the Wolf Guard attached, in Rhinos which leaves no room. Unless they are going with the Long Fangs, which I do not advise, then you need to drop one Grey Hunter from each of the 9 man packs so they can fit in the transports.

Your Rune Priest with Living Lightning should have a Chooser of the Slain, and neither of them should have a Storm Bolter. All of their shooting will be done through psychic powers, and the extra attack in melee is well worth not having it, even if you are a couple of points under. You can run whichever powers you prefer but I always recommend the Chooser/LL/MH and MH/TW setup when fielding two Rune Priests. I find it gives the most flexibility.

Adjusting your list would not change much. Here's how it would look:

Rune Priest (Chooser, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane) - 110
Rune Priest (Murderous Hurricane, Tempest's Wrath) - 100
5 Wolf Scouts (Meltagun, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltabombs) - 125
5 Wolf Guard (3 Power Fists, 3 Combi-Meltas, 2 Combi-Flamers) - 175
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Mark of the Wulfen, Rhino) - 185
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Mark of the Wulfen, Rhino) - 185
5 Grey Hunters (Flamer, Wolf Standard, Mark of the Wulfen, Razorback w/ TL Lascannon) - 175
5 Grey Hunters (Flamer, Wolf Standard, Mark of the Wulfen, Razorback w/ TL Lascannon) - 175
Land Speeder (Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer) - 70
Land Speeder (Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer) - 70
6 Long Fangs (3 Missile Launchers, 2 Heavy Bolters) - 130
Total 1,500

I still think dropping the Wolf Standard and Mark of the Wulfen from the smaller packs is a good idea. It gives you enough points to change their Flamers to Meltaguns, and give your Long Fangs a Razorback with TL Heavy Bolter, but the above list is definitely playable. The only change to your list that absolutely MUST happen is making room in the Rhinos for the Rune Priests. Other than that, it's playable anyway, but I think the adjustments balance it out a bit more.

Hope that helps.

It dose help. I think the last list i posted i rushed it before i fixed it so my bad. lol
But have to ask where you got the 5th wolf guard


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Also i might drop the standards from the small packs, but the MOTW to good to drop.