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Ok I'm feeling creative in terms of Necrons units, model wise I'd either represent it with a crystal from the Monolith or make something similar. For those of you who have seen my other 2 custom Necron units you may have or have not recognised that I'm simply making Necron versions of Tomb Kings units. The Tomb Warden is inspired by the Ushabti, The Hunter Scarabs by Carrion and the Obelisk by the Casket of Souls. As far as this unit goes it's very anti psyker/psychic powers and I can see it being fairly expensive due to its abilities. As always feedback is appreciated

Often seen floating around the perimeter of the greatest Necron tombs the Obelisk is a large pulsating crystal, as it hovers over the battlefields of the 41st millenium it consumes the energies of the Warp turning it into raw power. Psychic attacks are nullified and those who would reach into the Empyrean find their link cut. As it consumes raw warp energy the glow which eminates from it's glassy surfaces intensifies and pulses as though a heart beat within while lightning crackles over it's surface arcing out to envelop any who would attack it.

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Obelisk Pts/Model 120

Obelisk WS1 ,BS5 ,S1 ,T5 ,W3 ,I2 ,A0 ,Ld10 ,Sv3+

Unit Type: Infantry

Wargear: Eldritch Lightning

Special Rules

Fearless

Ponderous: The Obelisk hovers over the battlefield by unknown means, avoiding the dangers associated with terrain as it slowly advances towards the enemy.

The Obelisk has the Slow and Purposfull USR. In addition the Obelisk can move over all other models and terrain freely given that it's Slow and Purposfull roll was high enough to allow it to. It may not end it's move on top of other models or impassable terrain, except if it can end it's move on top of impassable terrain if it is actually possible to place the model on top of it.

Null Zone: Psykers near the Obelisk find their powers weaked as the Warp energy is drained from the area while a constant pounding within their heads robs them of the focus needed to controle their powers.

Any enemy psyker that takes a psychic test within 12" of a Necron Obelisk must take the test on 3D6 instead of 2D6. Should the psyker suffer a Perils of the Warp attack the psychic ability used automatically fails (even if a double 1 is rolled) and the psyker must wait a turn before using the ability again. In addition the Obelisk and any friendly unit within 12" of the Obelisk recieves a 4+ Invulnerable save against any psychic powers directed towards it.

Eldritch Lightning: Ghostly traces of electricity web across the surface of the Obelisk striking out at those who would attack it and destroying incomming missles. As the amount of Warp energy consumed increases so to does the intensity of the balefull lightning.

The Obelisk counts as having a Lightning Field as can be found in the Necron armory as well as a 5+ cover save.

In addition during the shooting phase the Obelisk can direct the energies arcing across its surface in a powerfull Lightning Blast.

Range Strength AP Type
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12" 5 3 Assault 6, Pinning

For every psychic ability successfully avoided due to the Null Zone special rule add +1 to the strength of the Obelisks Lightning Field and Lightning Blast. This is cumulative up to a total of S10

Not bad, I see it more as a vehicle than a unit w/ T & W but eh, could go either way.

Looks good, but I would add a S and WS value to it, even if it's just 1. I would probably cost it at 100 points, 120 at the most.

See I didn't add any S or WS because it's just kind of a floating crystal, I guess it could have a S in case it bumps into something I just coulden't see adding them but what they hey. I don't need to add an attack do I? since it's cc is handeled by the Lightning Field. and I just thought of something, do Lightning Fields hit at the WS of the user or do they automatically hit?

Also I didn't make it a vehicle because to me the Necrons don't really need anymore vehicles. The Monolith pretty much has everything covered plus I like the idea of the Necrons using constructs which is why none of the units I've made for them are actual Necrons.


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and 120 sounds about right since a Lord is 100 and the actual Lightning Field is 25 points

What's a ward save? Isn't it a WHFB term?

oops my bad. Sorry

Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:See I didn't add any S or WS because it's just kind of a floating crystal, I guess it could have a S in case it bumps into something I just coulden't see adding them but what they hey. I don't need to add an attack do I? since it's cc is handeled by the Lightning Field. and I just thought of something, do Lightning Fields hit at the WS of the user or do they automatically hit?

Also I didn't make it a vehicle because to me the Necrons don't really need anymore vehicles. The Monolith pretty much has everything covered plus I like the idea of the Necrons using constructs which is why none of the units I've made for them are actual Necrons.


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and 120 sounds about right since a Lord is 100 and the actual Lightning Field is 25 points

Auto hit for all unsaved wounds.

ok cool

Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:and 120 sounds about right since a Lord is 100 and the actual Lightning Field is 25 points

yes, but this thing has no WS, A, S or other wargear. so say the lightning field is cancelled out by the fact that this can barely do anything in CC without it, and call it 100 points.

It does have a WS and S now.

So far points suggestions have been in the 100s, anyone else think it should be 100 flat or shoul dit be a little bit above?

still- the field is cancelled out by the terrible WS and S- 100 points.

With respect I'm still going to wait to get other opinions

So, if I assault it in hth, and deal 3 wounds it dies. In return, it does not attack back, and instead deals three strength 3 ap -- wounds back.

Yeah, thats pretty harmless in cc. It's gun is pretty visious at assault 6, ap 3, and with a bs 5 but oh well.

You did not specify if it counts as a IC and can join squads. If it can't, then the lightning field is all but utterly useless and should be replaced. If it can join a squad, then it becomes a real threat, but in exchange causes the squad to be slow and purposful and loses its hover ability.

It isn't intended to be a cc unit. Hence it's weakness at cc

I had considered turning it into a IC though

It would make much more sence as a vehicle.

Well I hope this dosen't sound rude but it isn't going to be a vehicle.


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Ok. With your rules in mind it wont. But if I ever played it it would because that's what makes sense.

Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:Well I hope this dosen't sound rude but it isn't going to be a vehicle.


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but it is a vehicle, even the old epic add on says it is. just my opinion why not call it something else but leave the rules intact?

Ok. So I was thinking something like this:

Heavy Support

Obelisk

Points per model: 100

BS F S R
4 12 12 12

Unit Composition: You may take up to 3 Obelisks for every FOC heavy support slot, although they operate as separate individual units.

Unit Type: Vehicle, Skimmer

Special Rules:

Living Metal: Same as monolith (no melta, MC... extra dice)

Ponderous: Same as monolith (6" move)

Deep Strike: Same as monolith

Null Zone: Any enemy psyker that takes a psychic test within 18" of a Necron Obelisk must take the test on 3D6 and use the higher of the two dice instead of 2D6.

Haze of the Forgotten: All necron units with a model within 12" of the Obelisk benefit from a 5+ cover save.

Lightning Field: Range 18" - Str 6 - AP 3 - Assault 5, Pinning.

Monolithic Conductor: If there is a Monolith within 18" of the Obelisk then the Obelisk may forgo shooting its Lightning Field but instead the Monolith may measure all Ranges of its Power Matrix From the Obelisk. Necron Warriors may also be teleported to the Obelisk's Portol, but they may not enter reserves from the obelisk.

I do;ot want to sound rude but it will NOT be a vehicle. I do not want it to be, should any of you wish to take it and tweak it for yourself that's fine. But for my own it will not be a vehicle because that's what i want.

Ok. Aside from the vehicle point what do you think about the Monolithic Conductor rule?

The S5 AP3 Pinning gun is a little powerful for a 100pt unit that screws up psychic powers and provide cover saves. I'd say reduce the AP to 4 and get rid of the cumulative +1S to its guns. It's already got too many complex rules. It could use a little simplification.

@Rivers64: The Monolithic Projection rule dosen't go with the fluff I have created. It isn't supposed to be a mini less powerfull monolith.

@Jy2: I'm sorry that you think that it's rules are complicated but beings as it's rules are based off of rules already given by GW it can't be that complicated. The +1 strength isn't going because it represents a part of the fluff I want in the model. Not every custom made unit has to be some simple little infantry squad, there are more powerfull units in the game. As long as it isn't insanely overpowered (which by the comments so far I doubt it is) then it dosen't need to be simplified.

This unit has minimal cc abilities and has a nitch to be used against psykers. Armies without psykers in them don't even have to worry about it besides as a shooting weapon. The 4+ invulnerable save, only works against psychic powers. +1 strength, only happens when psychic powers fail because of the Obelisk. There has to be a psyker in the army to start and the psyker has to fail it's test in order for that +1S to happen.

I like it. it's unique and spooky and fits in nicely with the army in my opinion.

My only opint of contention.....isn't there already a unit somewhere called an Obilisk? I think it as in a book but it migh have been a fan-made thing. It was like a flattened cube. Wish i could remember where i saw it.

Of course, it it's not official then it akes no difference if you call yours the same name.





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Foudn it. it is on BoLS and it is a unit that soemone brought over from Epic apparently:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2008/01/necron-obelisk-apoc-datasheets.html




for an alternate name, how a about Nexus?

So was tha datasheet released by GW or fan made? I thought the only Necron datasheet was for the doomsday monolith, if GW didn't release it I'm not going to rename the unit just because someone else used the same name for theirs

But if the datasheet was made by GW I'll change it to a Null ______ (crystal, shard, chevron, beacon etc.)

I think the datasheet was fan-made for 40k, but the unit did originally exist with that name in Epic. Apparently.

Well personally epic dosen't have that big enough of an impact on 40k in my opinion to rename the unit.

Fair enough.