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So, in my gaggle of gamers, we all love 5th edition. Except for one player. Our Blood Angels player gets into at least 10 rules arguments per game because he still playes 4th edition in his head. He tried to assault, consolidate and assault again. We stopped him. He fired a vindicator at my battlewagon and wanted to see the ordinance damage chart.

He's not stupid, he owns the softcover 5th edition rulebook, yet whenever I play him, he always consults his 4th edition book. He has been known to do this with people at the FLGS, as well.

So Dakka, how do I convince him to stop playing 4th edition. We have hid the rulebook, destroyed it, jury-rigged a 5th edition softcover into a 4th edition cover. In fact, he got slugged today by a guy in my group for claiming to get cover from a bush, while being sniped from a vantage point. His response? "The bush is infinity high."

Thanks,
Felsi

Don't play him he clearly isn't willing to play according to the rules so either flat out refuse to play him or if you do , make sure you both uses , your ( a fith edition) rulebook.


'claw

Beat him with a 5th ed book repeatedly until he repents his sins and renounces the Chaos Gods and accepts the Emperor of Mankind as his lord and savior.

Just don't play him.

That is the only way to force him to change his habits. Stop trying to change them for him.

Sometimes the most productive thing you can do is nothing.

Stop playing him. Just make it very clear why.

Enough people do this and he will get it.

If that fails...exterminatus.

As said. If they guy refuses to play the same game you're playing, why are you even playing? Just don't play with him. If he agrees to a game of 5th and then pulls this junk mid-game, just end the game and start a new game with someone else.

5 stages of grief?
Uber-denial?

guiltl3ss wrote:Beat him with a 5th ed book repeatedly until he repents his sins and renounces the Chaos Gods and accepts the Emperor of Mankind as his lord and savior.

hey now, there are those of us who worship the dark gods and are still part of the church of 5th. but on topic, just vote him off the island, tell him none of your group will play him unless he uses 5th edition rules and everytime he uses 4th just stop the game and put him back in timeout like the child he is.

Agreed don't play him until he uses 5th edition rules...unless that is after 6th edition comes out in which case there is no hope for the chappy.

DUDE IDEA
He's using the 5TH edition dex, amirite?
If he insists on being a 4th gen nazi, make him play the WD dex. See how much he likes losing all of his perks
"you're not playing by 5th edition rules why should you get to play a 5th edition codex?"
that guy sounds like a total knob btw.

My first and foremost suggestion: HIT HIM WITH WHIPPY STICKS!

If that does not work, stuff his 4th edition rulebook where the sun don't shine. Sometimes, violence is called for.

If, after these punishments, he does not repent, shame him and ignore him for ever.

I like Mukkin's suggestion.

Take away his 5th edition Blood Angels codex, and tell him he can't play 5th edition Blood Angels until he plays 5th edition rules.

The results should prove amusing, but completely non-productive.....but amusing!

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If you actually want to get somewhere with this guy, and not just be amused, as everyone else has said just tell him you're not playing him anymore, until he stops pulling this crap.

Don't forget those target priority tests, too! LOL


Seriously, though... as has been said, just refuse to play him.

You say he's in your "gaggle of gamers," so I take this to mean he's your friend. So, treat him like one.
Don't be a jerk about not playing him. Just politely refuse and tell him that you only want to play 5th edition and, since he doesn't seem to want to do that, you aren't interested.

Eric

play 4th ed against him.

MagickalMemories wrote:Don't forget those target priority tests, too! LOL

He tried to pull that on me. Mother

Dont agree to sit down to a game with him unless he agrees to play with current rules and stop using that 4th edition book. I mean I can understand if he's in a small group and you both agree to play by an older rule set. But sneakily consulting your old edition rulebook whilst in a gaming store, and letting the other player assume its with current rules is just dickery. Regardless how its rationalised. Make him stipulate what edition each game is played by. Great if someone wants to try out earlier editions. Just don't mislead people because your nose it out of shape because you don't like the current edition. It isn't sportsmanlike and it isn't clever. Especially in a public setting like a FLGS. Hopefully if you talk to him about the issue and get it out in the open he might wake up to how his actions are clearly effecting other people. And become a better member of the hobby for it.

>Blood angels player
>TFG
>Doesn't play by rules

This is surprising..why?

Just refuse him games until he submits.

This guy is either a complete donkeycave or is autistic to some degree.

Though how is he a reverse TFG? unless you mean he is a TFG who is backwards about stuff.

Play him using the 2nd edition rules and watch him cry as you use Vortex grenade after Vortex grenade on him, perfectly legit back then
"You have a 3+ invunrable save do you? ...Bam! Vortex in the face... No you can't save, if you touch it your dead, there an't no comming back..."

I'll be the one thousandth person to say just don't play this fool.

I play this game for fun as a hobby. If someone doesn't fit into that paradigm they won't be playing me.

Monster Rain wrote:I'll be the one thousandth person to say just don't play this fool.

I play this game for fun as a hobby. If someone doesn't fit into that paradigm they won't be playing me.

Monster speaks truth. If you're not going to have fun playing him then don't.

chowderhead13 wrote: We have hid the rulebook, destroyed it, jury-rigged a 5th edition softcover into a 4th edition cover.

You destroyed his property? Shame on you!

Why is this called reverse TFG? I thought that would have been like a really cool guy or somethning. This sounds like your pretty run of the mill TFG.

Aduro wrote:Why is this called reverse TFG? I thought that would have been like a really cool guy or somethning. This sounds like your pretty run of the mill TFG.

I was wondering about that.
Also i agree with the "Make him use the old codex" idea.

purplefood wrote:

Aduro wrote:Why is this called reverse TFG? I thought that would have been like a really cool guy or somethning. This sounds like your pretty run of the mill TFG.

I was wondering about that.
Also i agree with the "Make him use the old codex" idea.

I don't know. I really don't miss those Venerable Death Company Dreadnoughts.

Monster Rain wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Aduro wrote:Why is this called reverse TFG? I thought that would have been like a really cool guy or somethning. This sounds like your pretty run of the mill TFG.

I was wondering about that.
Also i agree with the "Make him use the old codex" idea.

I don't know. I really don't miss those Venerable Death Company Dreadnoughts.

Fair point...