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 Strg Alt wrote:

LOL, I still play Blood Bowl and haven´t touched BB 2 because of the stupid aging rules.


those rules were in proper Blood Bowl at the time. If this new version of the computer game is based on the current version of the tabletop game, aging will be gone again.
   
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The post from BigBen/Cyanide with the BB3 announcement has mysteriously disappeared. Looks like someone made a balls up somewhere so people can read into that what they will.
   
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I imagine we'll be hearing confirmation of the new TT version shortly then.
   
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Or simply a better translation of the original French.
   
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Or they'll just pretend it never happened and let people wildly speculate and doomsayers to cause mass panic in the community for months on end.
   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Or simply a better translation of the original French.


From what I hear, I'm pretty sure it is not a mistranslation. But we shall see
   
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Oh it isn't a mistranslation. There will be all new rules for sure. GW dose this time and time again with every game they have in order to get the copyright. They went as far as changing "space Marine" to " adeptus asarties" imperial guard to "Astra militarium" because they couldn't copyright space Marine or impiral guard. They change the spelling of elves... The took man o war and turned it into dreadfleet. The list goes on and on. My guess is they had no way to put a lid on the lrb that is widely and freely available so what are they going to do? Make new rules that you have to buy from them. I understand to some extent. Blood Bowl has free rules hundreds of teams you can buy from any number of third parties and it has been going on so long that there is now no way for them to bring it back under their control but a complete redux. I just don't see a community that has been around for 30 years conforming to a new ruleset especially if they make the game worse. They can't make it better.

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I have to say that the thought of blood bowl rules getting AOS'd and streamlined etc... prepares me to drop the game.

Of course I'll wait and see but I play Blood Bowl for certain reasons, and if those reasons are all removed in the name of making it "faster" and "easier" and if they make it wombo combo related like their other main games are, thats the end of the line for me.

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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People will just go back to lrb

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rothrich wrote:
People will just go back to lrb


Yeah, the NAF will just shrug and go back to the LRB. Blood Bowl was doing fine for a decade without GW's support. If they do something really dumb, it'll live on.

Of course, that's assuming something will happen, and this wasn't just a screwup from a Cyanide social media coordinator, misinterpreting GW's continued team/Spike magazine release schedule.

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The one thing to consider is that whenever there is an official updated edition to your game that is alive, it will split communities and make it harder for new blood to be introduced to the game.

It is not a guarantee that the NAF will ignore it. Much the same was said when AOS appeared... that WHFB would just live on.

I know there is a "9th age" that seems to be in one corner of the world but there is no whfb or a 9th age anywhere that I can see in north america being played short of random peoples' garages.

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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AoS stuff is just made up. They are half way through releasing the teams. There is no logical reason to panic about that.

New rules, yes.
   
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 auticus wrote:
The one thing to consider is that whenever there is an official updated edition to your game that is alive, it will split communities and make it harder for new blood to be introduced to the game.

It is not a guarantee that the NAF will ignore it. Much the same was said when AOS appeared... that WHFB would just live on.

I know there is a "9th age" that seems to be in one corner of the world but there is no whfb or a 9th age anywhere that I can see in north america being played short of random peoples' garages.


Yeah, that's definitely a worry. I think there are some differences between the BB and WHFB communities that could help the game survive. Blood Bowl isn't as much of a cost investment to get into, and there's a lot more 3rd party support. And the NAF has a record of not having support from the games parent company but still keeping the game alive and introducing the game to new people. WHFB had a community, but not an organization.

HOWEVER - this could also mean an actual book release of the rules. So far, the only way to get the rules for Blood Bowl is to buy the starter set (or a PDF of the old LRB or CRB). Maybe this just means a seperate hardcover release?

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BB is from the FW team. They keep making "complex" games. (necromunda, HH, adeptus titanicus..)

Maybe they just change activations alternating miniatures as they have done in necromunda or something like that
   
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Vorian wrote:
AoS stuff is just made up. They are half way through releasing the teams. There is no logical reason to panic about that.

New rules, yes.


When I say "AOS it" I mean super streamlining the rules and making the game about combos and deck building. Or cutting players down to 7 to match the 7s game (I say that because thats a common request I hear semi-regular... make official blood bowl 7s to make the game go faster)

Something like "while your thrower is on the field, all catchers get +1 to catch", "while the ogre is on the field, adjacent allies get +1 str". Crap like that. I don't like wombo combo games being everywhere.

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GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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New AOS teams: Stormcast Eternals, Seraphons, deepkin. Basically new worlds to play on with new rules.

God I hope not, but will probably happen.

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I can see new races. I don't really mind that.

edit: provided they don't do what they do in AOS and make a new faction like a stormcast team be super powered and OP to move models.

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GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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It's probably just a new compendium. They can barely keep up with "4 teams per year" statement, let alone a brand new release with new teams and rules... at least until they go through most of the 24 teams.

Tomorrow there's a Licensing Preview scheduled in the Twitch channel. That would hopefully clear things up.
   
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 montanhas18 wrote:

It's probably just a new compendium. They can barely keep up with "4 teams per year" statement, let alone a brand new release with new teams and rules... at least until they go through most of the 24 teams.


When has lack of ability to Finnish what they started had any bearing on wether or not they move on to the next thing?
   
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It does seem unlikely that they would completely change the game now, rather than when they re-released it. Not impossible, but certainly not what I'd expect to happen (if anything is to actually happen at all).


Also, that Wood Elf is very promising. The 6th ed aesthetic was in my mind one of the best updates they ever did, and combined with modern plastic design and dynamic poses.. yes please.
   
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Funny enough the BB twitter and bigben accounts deleted all their tweets and the announcement. So yeah someone screwed up.

 
   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:

LOL, I still play Blood Bowl and haven´t touched BB 2 because of the stupid aging rules.


those rules were in proper Blood Bowl at the time. If this new version of the computer game is based on the current version of the tabletop game, aging will be gone again.


Cyanide BB is based on LRB6, which didn't have aging. Cyanide, and not GW, is the only company to have distributed the full LRB6. When LRB6 came out, GW stripped out all the fluff and some of the rules and distributed it as CRP.

Cyanide's aging is a house rule added to respond to certain issues that arise in their perpetual leagues.
   
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rothrich wrote:
Oh it isn't a mistranslation. There will be all new rules for sure. GW dose this time and time again with every game they have in order to get the copyright. They went as far as changing "space Marine" to " adeptus asarties" imperial guard to "Astra militarium" because they couldn't copyright space Marine or impiral guard. They change the spelling of elves... The took man o war and turned it into dreadfleet. The list goes on and on. My guess is they had no way to put a lid on the lrb that is widely and freely available so what are they going to do? Make new rules that you have to buy from them. I understand to some extent. Blood Bowl has free rules hundreds of teams you can buy from any number of third parties and it has been going on so long that there is now no way for them to bring it back under their control but a complete redux. I just don't see a community that has been around for 30 years conforming to a new ruleset especially if they make the game worse. They can't make it better.


That's … not how copyright works. If they were going to do that, they'd have done it in 2016 when the new game came out.
   
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Halflings go up on PreOrder this weekend. Old Treeman and the hotpot are getting the Made To Order treatment. Doesn’t bode well for a new Treeman model soon.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
Halflings go up on PreOrder this weekend. Old Treeman and the hotpot are getting the Made To Order treatment. Doesn’t bode well for a new Treeman model soon.

The article specifically states next weekend for the preorders.

Next weekend will see new models to pre-order for Blood Bowl and Necromunda. Join Jim & Bob as they take a look at a new team and learn more about the underhive return of a pair of fan favourites.


Not sure why it went up today rather than Sunday as usual, but maybe they won't have people around on Sunday to make sure everything goes off smoothly?
   
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South New Jersey

They're really just going to do a week long made to order to cover for a lack of basic Treemen?

Really?

   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
Halflings go up on PreOrder this weekend. Old Treeman and the hotpot are getting the Made To Order treatment. Doesn’t bode well for a new Treeman model soon.

The article specifically states next weekend for the preorders.

Next weekend will see new models to pre-order for Blood Bowl and Necromunda. Join Jim & Bob as they take a look at a new team and learn more about the underhive return of a pair of fan favourites.


Not sure why it went up today rather than Sunday as usual, but maybe they won't have people around on Sunday to make sure everything goes off smoothly?


Ah, my mistake, thank you.

 
   
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rothrich wrote:
Oh it isn't a mistranslation. There will be all new rules for sure. GW dose this time and time again with every game they have in order to get the copyright. They went as far as changing "space Marine" to " adeptus asarties" imperial guard to "Astra militarium" because they couldn't copyright space Marine or impiral guard. They change the spelling of elves... The took man o war and turned it into dreadfleet. The list goes on and on. My guess is they had no way to put a lid on the lrb that is widely and freely available so what are they going to do? Make new rules that you have to buy from them. I understand to some extent. Blood Bowl has free rules hundreds of teams you can buy from any number of third parties and it has been going on so long that there is now no way for them to bring it back under their control but a complete redux. I just don't see a community that has been around for 30 years conforming to a new ruleset especially if they make the game worse. They can't make it better.


"GW is a model company and not a games company."

This is GW´s credo. I still remember the cluster feth of rules which was the re-release of N17. Only the dedication of the fan base and their introduction of custom rules made it playable.
So they want to redesign BB with the next iteration of the game? Be my guest as I won´t touch it with a ten foot pole. I have downloaded the living rulebook years ago and have a lot of BB teams. GW, you won´t see a single cent from me.
   
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 montanhas18 wrote:
Tomorrow there's a Licensing Preview scheduled in the Twitch channel. That would hopefully clear things up.


Did anyone watch that? Any new info?
   
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I would like to see less emphasis on creating “long term” damage, and more focus on playing the ball. My experience is that the best long-term strategy for non elf / skaven teams (most teams) is to bash and, I almost forgot, 2 guys to play the ball.
   
 
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