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Hi, im rather new to the DE and believe it or not im looking to make a foot slogging force, so this is my webway list. I need lots of suggestions so pleace feel free to comment, thanks

Test army 1500
Urien Rakarth 190
2 Haemonculi w/ webway portal 170
Troops
8 wracks 80 liq gun 90
8 wracks w/ liq gun 90
5 kabs blaster 60
5 kabs blaster 60
Fast attack
6 reavers w/ 2 heat lance 156 pts
3 reavers w/ heat lance 78

Elites
4 trueborn blasters 108
3 grotesques 105
5 incubi w/ klavix and demiklaves 145
Heavy
Talos w/ chain flails and tl lance 120
Talos w/ chain flails and lance 120
Total cost 1492

Ballsy list plan. Shouldn't you at least get the Haemons (who are pairing up with the Wracks, yes/no?) into some Raiders. With the Raiders you can move one 12", disembark 2" and drop a WWP. Have the other move flat out, and on turn 2 he can pretty much drop the portal wherever you may want it. Gives you a guaranteed portal drop and also a secondary portl drop with a chance of dropping it on top of an enemy objective or maybe behind his parking lot, or something else amusing.

As stands the list looks very slow and very likely to be shot to pieces, as the WWPs aren't going to be able to move far enough out of your deployment zone to matter much.

thanks for the tip, i appreciate it. here's the new more clear version

Test army 1500
Urien Rakarth 190
Troops
2 Haemonculi w/ webway portal 170
• 8 wracks 80 liq gun 90
• Raider w/ flicker field and nights shields 80pts
8 wracks w/ liq gun 90
5 kabs blaster 60
5 kabs blaster 60
Fast attack
6 reavers w/ 2 heat lance 156 pts

Elites
4 trueborn blasters 108
3 grotesques 105
5 incubi w/ klavix and demiklaves 145
Heavy
Talos w/ chain flails and tl lance 120
Talos w/ chain flails and lance 120
Total cost 1494

My only real question is that this army relies on assault and pain tokens immensely, should i consider a cronos pain machine for extra pain tokens, and do you think i have enough anti tank in this army, if not how could i solve it.

if you dont kill every tank the opponet has on the board, or have poor reserve rolls expect to lose horribly. We struggle with gaurd already and I think this list will struggle more.

Unfortunately one of his primary opponents is mech guard (me). I know it goes against the webway trick, but I still think running 3xtrueborn with blasters teamed up with 7 wyches in raiders seems like a solid anti tank combo. Fast move turn 1. Turn 2 pop tanks with trueborn, and assault into troops with wyches.

Blaster warriors aren't all that good at antitank. You get a single BS4 shot at 18". You're really going for an uphill battle with that list against something with even one or two tanks, let alone what mech guard can bring.

You've got 6 blasters, and four heat lances. Talos can take on armor in CC, but getting there might be tricky, even with the webway portal right where you want it. I'd drop the incubi for more blaster trueborn, at least. I don't like reavers, but they might work coming out of a webway.

The big problem is you only have the two vehicles, holding the webway you need for the rest of the army. They're going to get chewed apart whenever you don't go first, and if you reserve them they've lost their purpose already.

Couple of suggestions of cheap adds:

Each haemonculus - add Animus Vitae and Poison Blade to each. This should increase their chance of wounding and the AV should help with the pain tokens.

Get the Caltrops for your reavers - S6 attacks should do you wonders.

I would lose the blasters on the troop choices but give them a splintercannon or a dark lance. They are so small, you want to keep them back as fire support. Personnally I l love the splintercannon over a DL but then it has no AT capability so if you need that a DL wouldn't hurt.

You are going on foot and I don't like the chances of 5 incubi on foot. How about leave them at home for another trueborn with blasters and then maybe another grotesque or three for Urien to lead around.

Good luck