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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 04:38:46
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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I am new to the hobby and I am working on an Orks 40k army. I have my test model that I am working on. Its just a single boy from the AOBR set.
I got his arm and head glued using:
This held up, but its the Black Reach set, so his arms and head have a pin and a hole for the pin to go in.
I used the following for the attachment of the model to the base:
This is taking a lot longer to set. It is definitely not instant like the Citadel glue is. But that stuff globs up, and its fairly expensive.
I also have access to:
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This is probably excessive, and the simple answer would be:
just go buy Citadel plastic glue.
Or maybe I just need more patience, and im used to the instant setting of the plastic glue.
Any advice would help a lot, I want to get this army rolling!
Thank you in advance.
Mark
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 04:41:57
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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I would recommend Testors plastic glue. It's in a red tube. I'm pretty sure it's 2 for 3$. And heck, I've never used citadel glue. Over priced....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:04:00
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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I'd go for the Testors black bottle you listed. Or the Faller stuff. Superglues don't do more than a surface bond with plastics.
It shouldn't take that long to 'grab' or set unless you are using way too much. The more runny the plastic glue, the less you actually need. A small drop on each side. Wait for the glue to 'soak in' (the surface changes) then press together and hold for 10-15 seconds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:08:12
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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dufflebag wrote:I would recommend Testors plastic glue. It's in a red tube. I'm pretty sure it's 2 for 3$. And heck, I've never used citadel glue. Over priced....
i myself use this as well, ive used both testers and GW, i personally like testers better plus is about 3 times cheeper here, and zellars carrys it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:08:44
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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I used the Citadel once and that was because the normal glue I got was unavailable due to a shop closing.
Never brought it again.
Super glue isn't that great for plastic. Generally it does a better job on metal but others like to use an epoxy resin (if I remember correctly) for them instead. I haven't tried it, but the Testors one should probably be the best in that list you have there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:15:04
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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I am fairly new too, only been putting my army together for the last five months or so, but I REALLY like the citadel glue. May I ask why you are looking for alternatives, aside from the price? I have stuck three CSM squads, a rhino, and a predator together and still have a half a tube left. It works wonderfully on plastics with just the tiniest dot and a few seconds of light pressure, and even gives you a minute or so of play time for those last second adjustments. Yes, it seems overpriced at first, but a little bit goes a long way. My biggest gripe is how it bonds the plastic SO well. I would like a glue that bonds plastic well without dissolving it, even though I know that's the reason why it holds so well. Also, after a few layers of paint/primer, citadel glue is extremely tough. The loctite ultra gel is my go to for metals, however. On most small models, a bit of roughing up and that gel works wonders. On the larger things, pinning and green stuff makes them invincible. Just my own findings, so feel free to offer suggestions, especially with the metals.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:18:59
Subject: Re:Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Crazed Wardancer
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so far i've been happy with loctite control gel with my plastics.
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assembled but unpainted: 2 glade guard and the lord's bowman, 8 glade guard scouts, sexy elf lord
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:21:28
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Plastic glue is technically a solvent that welds the two pieces together. No plastic glue won't do this. It is why they are used. For a strong PERMANENT bond.
Other options are because GW charge a premium for what is just another gel-type plastic glue that you can get from at least 6 other manufacturers for less (for the same amount). There is nothing special about THEIR glue - it's not like the pieces will fail to glue with another (non-gw glue).
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Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:23:26
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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@ Munga - I dont like how the product glops up at the end, its a very messy product.
@ chrome, how long does it take for the testor's to completely set where I can move on? Basically im worried if the model dropped, or it was bumped, i dont want the model to pop right off the base.
Thanks all for the input.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:23:28
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Citadel glue is overpriced gak, I use testors for plastic and gorilla for metal and resin.
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the mail has taken forever
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:27:25
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Such as the testor's above? Don't get me wrong, I'm not being a fanboy, I am new. I just know that the glue they sell is boss. If I can get it for cheaper under a different label, please let me know. This is the same reason I am getting away from citadel paints (at least the basic colours, their metals and foundations are boss) and going to Vallejo. You start off with what they teach you and then you learn better  I got really annoyed when I found they didn't make a pink. I quickly figured out that their "Green stuff" was way cheaper bought under a different label and in much larger quantities. I'm going to keep worshiping their models, though. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, messy? What do you mean? Maybe you are using too much?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:35:13
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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I buy the red metal tubes of testors plastic glue, its really cheap and effective.
http://www.megahobby.com/glueforplasticmodelsbytestors.aspx
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Sihamoni takes great pride in the league he helped create, as was conveyed in his recent advertising campaign for the CMFL that stated his midgets will "... take on anything; man, beast, or machine."
Ouze wrote:
Is that a haiku?
order from forge world
the mail has taken forever
this resin is warped
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:39:01
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Feldwebel
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I use the testors liquid cement for plastics as well (the one in the black bottle), and I use the Loctite Gel for my metal models. They're both really great glues for the jobs they do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:39:09
Subject: Re:Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I use this:
And this, I personally like the toxic stuff better, it works slightly better for some reason...
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:47:20
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Dakka Veteran
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Thanks guys, I'll snag a red tube on my next visit to the hobby store. Ventilation is not a problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 05:57:53
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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I prefer the black bottle testors over the red tube.
Red tube either never comes out, or it comes gushing out with no way to control the flow.
My favorite is some stuff a guy at my FLGS has. I think its testors, but it is older stuff, and comes with a little brush. great for "filling" in seams, as most of the stuff will get sucked into the gap, and it will fill the outside without ruing any detail.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 06:06:37
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Battlefield Professional
Empire Of Denver, Urth
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I prefer Testors Liquid Cement
http://www.testors.com/product/136633/3502X/_/Liquid_Cement_for_Plastic
Brush it where I want and I don't have to deal the Blob from red tube.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 06:16:11
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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True, the blob is annoying, I use a cuetip though, so I apply to the cuetip, then brush on.
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 06:26:47
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The glue I have found to be the best is Plastruct liquid cement, it does not have the fumes of Testors or GW glues, and it bonds in under 3 seconds.
I tried Testors back in the late 80's and early 90's till I went to a effects school and worked with Plastruct, and have been useing it since, on scrachbuilt models, as well as GW and other companies, and it works great on all of them.
In 2009 I went to a Games Day in Baltimore and I tried out the glues there ( a free building and two minis was fun  ) and I HATED the glues GW put out, they did not work nearly as well as what I'm use too. And on a side note is it common for the entire hall to be so full of fumes that people have to go outside? I had a headach from them and I saw at least 7 kids passed out from the fumes inside.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 06:28:14
Subject: Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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I just buy whatever generic super glue is available at mass retailers. Never had an issue with pieces not sticking together. I normally buy the four packs. It lasts about a month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 07:04:19
Subject: Re:Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Dwarf Runelord Banging an Anvil
Way on back in the deep caves
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Testors usually takes about 2 hours to set completely. It should hold small parts together in about 15 seconds. It depends on the weight and position of the parts. Sometimes rubber bands or small clamps like clothspins can be used to hold parts firmly together while the glue is drying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 07:40:50
Subject: Re:Alternative glue to Citadel Plastic Glue.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I dont like how my model was easy to break off of the black plastic base using the plastic cement. it set for about 3-4 hours. For personal confidence in my models, I might just have to use the GW glue.
He was a test model for this reason, I wanted to test out the glue I purchased.
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