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If this has been asked over and over i apologize in advance. But, for bigger point armies i am planning on making large blocks of possibly 30-40 of Marauders with flails. Now, i am thinking if i give them the MoK with the BoR that is 2 extra attacks? (they both give frenzy) Or a more defensive style with MoN and Banner of rage any ideas or anyone know if i can Do the moK and BoR. Thank you for any help given.

The answer is no. If you want +2 attacks you'll need either the banner or MoK and an additional hand weapon.

Ok, follow on question, since it is sort of odd and I never really thought it worth a thread on its own.

Since the only way to get Marauders with a BoR is to have a BSB, say I have marauders with MoK, and a BSB with MoK and BoR. The BsB is running around separate from them. The marauders go into combat and *gasp* lose a round. The marauders now are no longer Frenzied (I think). Now the BSB joins them, and they are Frenzied again. They win combat, and he walks away to be crazy somewhere else.
Question: do the marauders lose Frenzy again, or retain it since they got it anew?

You can't join a unit that is in combat. The Marauders are stuck without frenzy until the fight ends. Once out of combat, the BSB can join them and give them frenzy.

-Matt

Clearly he meant he joins them after they rally or eventually win the fight unfrenzied.
As for the question, if the source of the unit's frenzy is an item, removing said item from the unit removes the frenzy, same goes for any other USR.

Thanks Hoverboy, that's what I was thinking too. I just wasn't sure if there was a way to give a unit that has a trick that gives them Frenzy (like MoK) the rule again if they lose it. Sort of like

Rule: If the light is on, it stays on until something changes that. If the light is off it stays off until something changes that.

1: Light is on, so it stays on.
2: Light gets turned off by X, so it stays off when X leaves.
3: Light gets turned on by Y, so it stays on.
4: Y leaves. Light stays on.

I didn't see why there would be a rule like that, but the fact you can lose Frenzy even when you have the MoK is weird to me as well for some reason. Just doesn't sit right.

Plus, thanks for the benefit of the doubt, but actually Matt was right to point that out. I hadn't really thought about when the BSB joins, just that he does and leaves. As I wrote it, it would be illegal. Secondary to my main point, but still a good thing to avoid confusion! Thanks guys!