Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:03:09
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
|
I'm serious about this light-hearted question.
I was thinking about one of the robocop movies in math class about the walker-type robot that tries walking down some stairs, but fails at it.
So that got me to thinking about "How can dreadnoughts walk down hills?"
They are top heavy, their upper body is like 3x as big as their lower body.
Most dreads have only one hand, the other is a gun, so getting up from a fall seems difficult.
Are there any answers perhaps in lore for this?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:06:10
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
|
Dreadnoughts have much more sensitive sensors than normal robots. However they're still clunky and cumbersome, so they likely can only tackle a gentle slope (meaning mountain climbing is out of the question). Although a Dreadnought might intentionally fall down, to squish anyone in front of it. As for how they get up, they might get creative with their weapons (using the barrel of a lascannon as a crutch for example) and their arms have been shown in DoW to be able to extend.
|
Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:06:26
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
|
They jump?
Turn sideways?
Go backwards?
They have knee joints...
|
Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:15:02
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
|
purplefood wrote:They jump?
Turn sideways?
Go backwards?
They have knee joints...
I can see crab walking but that doesn't explain how they would keep up with infantry in both tabletop or the video games
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:19:12
Subject: Re:How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Stalwart Space Marine
|
Simple answer. They just roll down the hills! Think how much damage a rolling dread could inflict to charging infantry
|
Raven Guard ~1,500pts WIP |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:20:54
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
|
Katamari Damacy....
|
Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:22:57
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
|
ivangterrace wrote:purplefood wrote:They jump?
Turn sideways?
Go backwards?
They have knee joints...
I can see crab walking but that doesn't explain how they would keep up with infantry in both tabletop or the video games
They just go faster... They do have knees so hills wouldn't be too much of a problem.
|
Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:46:51
Subject: Re:How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
|
Top-heavy.
Walk down a hill with a heavy backpack.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:50:18
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
|
Well, Furioso Dreads just fly down the hill
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/10 21:50:46
2000 pts |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:53:37
Subject: Re:How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
I read the "roll down it!" and thought of indiana jones.
I would guess it just doesn't fall. If it really needs to get down a hill, it's feet would tip to make up for the slope, IMO.
|
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 22:39:57
Subject: Re:How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Stormin' Stompa
|
ivangterrace wrote:Top-heavy.
Walk down a hill with a heavy backpack.
I can do this sprinting, a dreadnought should be able to handle walking pace.
|
Ask yourself: have you rated a gallery image today? |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 22:40:42
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
They ski, like in Tribes.
In all serious, they probably just slide down steeper slopes. Not like it's going to damage them.
The real question is, "how do dreadnoughts walk UP hill?"
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 23:07:02
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
|
In robocop ed-209 has reverse knees and has long lower legs to compensate for a front and top heavy body. Walking down or up a hill with a heavy backpack is not an issue of body mechanics as much as physical limitations, which I'm assuming an ancient war machine body would not have many of.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 23:25:29
Subject: Re:How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Counterquestion: How do Dreadnoughts walk on a flat surface with these kind of legs? Almost impossible with current physics.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 23:26:28
Subject: Re:How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
Dumbarton, Scotland
|
Shuffle. Shuffle like a mad penguin.
|
Karyorhexxus' Sons of the Locust: 1000pts |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 23:34:23
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
|
take a look at the Dreadnought in DoW. Clunky, but effective.
|
Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 02:21:50
Subject: Re:How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
Between Alpha and Omega, and a little to the left
|
Very slowly.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 02:32:17
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Combat Jumping Ragik
|
Gyroscopic stabilization? I know it's probably not the right answer but hey anyone else got "realistic" ideas?
|
Trade rules: lower rep trades ships 1st. - I ship within 2 business days, if it will be longer I will contact you & explain. - I will NOT lie on customs forms, it's a felony, do not ask me to mark sales as "gifts". Free shipping applies to contiguous US states. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 02:36:50
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
|
Slick wrote:In robocop ed-209 has reverse knees and has long lower legs to compensate for a front and top heavy body. Yet is completely foiled by stairs and open Manholes.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/11 02:37:07
This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 03:00:13
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Stormin' Stompa
|
Kommissar Kel wrote:Slick wrote:In robocop ed-209 has reverse knees and has long lower legs to compensate for a front and top heavy body.
Yet is completely foiled by stairs and open Manholes.
Now I have the robocop scene in my head, but with a giant dreadnought cursing robocop.
|
Ask yourself: have you rated a gallery image today? |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 03:29:43
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
RogueSangre
|
It think it's got to do with who's piloting the Dreadnought. Remember, there's still a human, or at least, part of one, in there.
I imagine he maneuvers his new body downhill the same way we do with ours. If we feel off balance, we shift our weight to compensate. I imagine by the time Dreadnoughts were developed, they were able to replicate the organs that regulate things like balance and sense of motion. I believe that is a vestibular function?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 03:44:40
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
|
The head is still intact, so I assume the ears are as well. That, combined with vision and how our bodies are aware of "where" it is (likely duplicated with a Dreadnought with sensors on the outside) is how we balance, so it's plausable that a Dreadnought Pilot will innately balance himself as he walks. the body of a Dread has it's weight roughly evenly distributed on both sides, so it shouldnt be too different from how we would walk.
|
Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 05:38:50
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
New question: How does a dread manage to go straight up in a ruin?
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 05:42:00
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Lady of the Lake
|
Shas'O Dorian wrote:Gyroscopic stabilization? I know it's probably not the right answer but hey anyone else got "realistic" ideas? 
The Emprah gives them the power to do it?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 06:43:34
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Boosting Space Marine Biker
Aurora, CO.
|
Crevab wrote:New question: How does a dread manage to go straight up in a ruin?
He jumps!
|
10'000 years ago, Terra was under siege. The Sons of Rogal Dorn stood firm at the gate, never letting an inch slip away so long as we drew breath. We were killed in droves defending the Emperor and his Imperium, and we killed many in turn. We defended the Emperor and his Imperium, and this is what it means to be a Fist
2500 worth - W114/D28/L70
The Baleful Soul - 2000 worth -W21/D5/L4
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 08:07:03
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
|
They roll like droidekas.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 08:23:24
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Crushing Clawed Fiend
mansfield,Tx
|
What hill? all I see is a crater that dared to challenge me.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 08:45:33
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
|
The machine spirit does it.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 09:12:56
Subject: Re:How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Liche Priest Hierophant
|
If it has to close cobat arms, it would climb down.
If it doesn't, it would slide down it like Bear Gryls from Man vs Wild
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 16:05:42
Subject: How do Dreadnoughts walk down hills without falling?
|
 |
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
|
Imagine how a human would walk down a hill: we bend at the waist, shifting our weight to compensate for the gradient.
Dreadnoughts have a ball joint at the "waist", therefore they would simply bend just like a normal human and shift their weight. Ta-da!
|
|
|
 |
 |
|