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At tournaments and other predetermined "serious" games: Yes, definitely. Entire army painted to some standard and WYSIWYG or no entry.

For friendly games, I say play with what you got. Hell, even using paper cutouts of units you want to try out, or marking "carnifex" on that Dr Pepper bottle to fill out your ranks is fine with me as long as the player is friendly. I've played plenty of games with entirely subbed armies, paper monoliths, coke can monstrous creatures, and had lots of fun.

Selecting a game by player is much more important than selecting by army.

Everyone would rather play against fully painted armies, nobody is arguing this. The only exception is a very badly painted army, like those with garish unshaded colors. Nobody likes playing with people who obviously don't care about their models' appearance, and I agree it's disrespectful to the players who spent the time with theirs.

The simple fact is a lot of people don't have painted armies because 40k for them is a hobby, not some unpaid second job. Do you really want to scare new players out of this very hard-to-get-started hobby by saying not only do you have to spend $500+++ on an army, but you're not even allowed to play your game until you do the following chores.

For most people I'd say assembling the models is fun, and painting is not, so most people stop there.

112lom wrote:i dont alow unpainted armies on my table...... at a minium all units must be undre coated and 60% of the army must be painted

Don't be so picky, it's just a game, and it's not even your table. If someone at my gaming place sported this attitude I wouldn't play with them even if I had a master painted army, because they'll probably be as uptight about everything for the next 2 hours of the game.