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Lets get a discussion going, Do you allow non painted models on your tables?

Generally when we play we dont, all models MUST have 3 colors on them, how about you? Im talking friendly at your place, and even your LGS. I dont mind bases not being done, but models should be painted

I dont care. Its just a game.

I don't field anything unless its painted but I don't try to tell my opponents what to do. Bring 'em on.

Good points, i like to see the models painted when they come out to play, my LGS when i lived in NY wouldnt allow you to play unless models had 2+ colors and your bases were flocked

Oh no...not this discussion again. Didn't we just do this a few months ago. This is going to end up in a flame war soon. Everyone seems to have a strong opinion on this and it never ends well.

But I have an unpainted model on the table in front of me RIGHT NOW!

Yeah, but I'd rather see it painted!

In turnaments no, but friendly games bring what you got....

wasnt on here a few months ago :( not trying to start flame wars, so if it gets to that or the mods believe itll be that, please close thread, just curious as to others thoughts

I like the look of two painted armies going at it but if the person is new or trying out a new unit I don't mind

You're going to have people in two camps. Those who believe that not painting models is heresy and is disrespectful to other players, and those who think it's just a game and doesn't matter that much.

Personally I tend to respect people more if they participate in the hobby fully (i.e. paint their models) but I'm not going to turn down a game because someone doesn't have painted minis. Everyone's army tends to be a work in progress, and if you're adding new units and want to try them out while you're still working on them that's perfectly fine.

I don't field unpainted models, but I also don't tell my opponents how they're allowed to play the game.

i have no problem playing against unpainted models. i use unpainted models often simply because i dont have a lot of free time on my hands, and i would rather build or play than paint.

I don't "allow" anything. They're not my models.

Happygrunt wrote:I dont care. Its just a game.

+1, and a lot more.

It is really interesting to me.

Between 6-8 years ago, when I first got into the hobby.. The local GW would not allow you to play with unpainted miniatures. Minimum standard was 3 colors, with sand or flocked base. (3 colors could consist of Metal guns, painted main color, eyes diff color)

I'm sorta indifferent, but would PREFER to play against a painted army.

This did open a can of trouble last time, but it's a fair question provided it stays civil.

I wouldn't turn down an opponent because he doesn't have some painted miniatures/a squad/an army.

I can also understand those who don't want to. It's how they chose/like to play the game.

Honestly, a good half of my models aren't painted and the ones that are would only hit 3 colors if mithril silver drybrushed over boltgun metal counts. I, personally prefer playing to painting and, as I just started playing 6 months ago, I am still collecting my army; therefore when forced to choose between buying paint and buying models, models win.

Also, my artistic skills are......lacking. I have issues spray painting model cars, so I am trying to find time for one of the guys in my group to give me a tutorial, as I don't understand mixing, washes, etc.

Painted is good, but not required. Ive played against the 'Eldar 'BlueTac Craftworld' because the guy hadnt even glued them at that stage. Still fun!

Battlesong wrote:Honestly, a good half of my models aren't painted and the ones that are would only hit 3 colors if mithril silver drybrushed over boltgun metal counts. I, personally prefer playing to painting and, as I just started playing 6 months ago, I am still collecting my army; therefore when forced to choose between buying paint and buying models, models win.

Also, my artistic skills are......lacking. I have issues spray painting model cars, so I am trying to find time for one of the guys in my group to give me a tutorial, as I don't understand mixing, washes, etc.

Dude, you'll get better information from the tutorial section here than most modelling groups.

Sometimes you just have to watch someone paint before it all clicks.

I love both the hobby aspect and the gaming aspect of 40K, and I don't let either one get in the way of the other.

Ideally painted, but realistically you'd never play any games. There just aren't enough people out there with the patience to paint an entire army. I know a GW store manager who says he doesn't own a painted army (although that's because he enjoys painting and spends too much time on each mini).

Sometimes we introduce a house rule saying that continually unpainted models are subject to penalities (such as stupidity), but needless to say, not everyone is up for that.

Flashman wrote:Ideally painted, but realistically you'd never play any games. There just aren't enough people out there with the patience to paint an entire army. I know a GW store manager who says he doesn't own a painted army (although that's because he enjoys painting and spends too much time on each mini).

Sometimes we introduce a house rule saying that continually unpainted models are subject to penalities (such as stupidity), but needless to say, not everyone is up for that.

I really disagree with that statement. There was no problem finding people to play with when the local store had the 3 color policy. Even 12 year old kids could meet the minimum standard fairly easily.

Base coat, eyes, weapon...

Get it to that standard before you put it on the table, and I'm not even going to think about not playing you.

I can base coat an entire box of marines in about 15 minutes. Heck, you dont even have to take them off the sprue.

Then hit the weapons with a coat of chainmail or boltgun.

Then hit the eyes or backpack with a different color.
Boom, 3 color standard.

Doesnt have to be 'finished' just meet the min standard.

snurl wrote:I don't field anything unless its painted but I don't try to tell my opponents what to do. Bring 'em on.

This is exactly how I feel. I'd be lying if I said I didn't prefer playing against painted armies, but I am not going to dictate how someone else enjoys the game. Painted, unpainted, it doesn't really matter as long as my opponent and I had fun playing the game (and I won ).

There are fully painted armies in the world? Oh my. I've only ever played against 1 and seen maybe 3 ever at the store.

Given the choice I´d allways choose the painted army (unless I´d have to choose between a nice, well known guy and a total prick or completely unknown player), but I don´t mind unpainted armies.

After all, I had a long way to go to have some playable and painted armies myself.

2112 wrote:Oh no...not this discussion again. Didn't we just do this a few months ago. This is going to end up in a flame war soon. Everyone seems to have a strong opinion on this and it never ends well.

Haha, don't we have the same discussions on every topic over and again?

I don't mind either way. Painted is best, but non-painted is OK, too.

One of my favorite parts of the hobby is experimenting with new lists and combinations of models. Seeing as I can brainstorm, buy and assemble models a hell of a lot faster than I can paint them, I often have a few units on the table with no paint on them.

Non-painted doesn't bother me though. I'd rather an unpainted model than a proxy, personally.

We usually don't care much about it in the club, painted or not I'll still play against you.

I don't allow myself to field unpainted models on MY table (or any table). I have little control over anyone else.

I'd prefer their stuff painted, but I'd take having it more or less WYSIWYG before it is painted.