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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 23:56:36
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Seems odd to me that the Dark Eldar Codex doesn't have options for psykers, seeing as the Eldar are the most psychically active race in the galaxy.
What's up with this? Any explanation in the codex that I missed, or is this just one of those things?
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Slaneesh may seem fun now, but when you find yourself in bed with a he-goat and several implements of pain, you'll know you've gone too far. -Emperor's Faithful
"Oh, Brother Asmodai! Yes, spank me! I've been heretical!"
"Feel the Emperor's judgement, Azrael!"
"Oooh, yes! Purge me! Purge me!" -Cheese Elemental
'In the eye of Terror, it's still the '80's. And that's a good thing.' -Necroagogo |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 00:00:26
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Dark Eldar treat psykers as playthings. They don't have them as they're probably all off being tortured etc in some experiment somewhere or the like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 00:04:38
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dark eldar are such juicy targets for Slaanesh that the minute one shows any psyker traces they are pretty much instantly gobbled up.
You would have to feed slaanesh a vast number of souls and be damn sneaky to avoid such a fate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 00:09:25
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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My guess is Slaanesh can "see" psykers easily and that an Archon wouldn't want to keep anyone around that can see anything resembling the future as he would be in constant threat. The story behind the Hellion Lord talks a little about how they deal with the likes of psykers within commorragh too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 00:20:56
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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They spent too much time getting off on pain and not using their powers that they have pretty much lost the ability to do so. To top it all off they don't want daemons finding thier way into the Dark city. This from the codex.
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And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 00:25:58
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Where they live is halfway between the Warp and Real-space. Having a psyker about would be a bad idea. This has basically made the DE not use their psychic powers which have gradually disappeared.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 00:43:51
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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The ban on Psychic powers in Commorragh is the single rule all Dark Eldar follow as a whole. Doing so would cause Slaneesh to grow in power within Commorragh, and no Dark Eldar would ever want that.
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Ayn Rand "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 01:12:04
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes, living in the webway zone is the key why there are no DE psykers.
Having psykers next to the warp is like allowing flamers in an oil refinery: Calling for trouble!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 15:30:38
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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All that makes logical sense (as logical as it gets in 40k, anyway), but I've read in numerous places that Eldar (both dark and non) are all latent psykers of considerable strength. Perhaps they've suppressed this over time? I just think that this is something GW really could have had some fun with, in the vein of story-telling.
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Slaneesh may seem fun now, but when you find yourself in bed with a he-goat and several implements of pain, you'll know you've gone too far. -Emperor's Faithful
"Oh, Brother Asmodai! Yes, spank me! I've been heretical!"
"Feel the Emperor's judgement, Azrael!"
"Oooh, yes! Purge me! Purge me!" -Cheese Elemental
'In the eye of Terror, it's still the '80's. And that's a good thing.' -Necroagogo |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 15:32:24
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Shelegelah wrote:All that makes logical sense (as logical as it gets in 40k, anyway), but I've read in numerous places that Eldar (both dark and non) are all latent psykers of considerable strength. Perhaps they've suppressed this over time? I just think that this is something GW really could have had some fun with, in the vein of story-telling.
DE used to be latent psykers but centuries of suppressing it has basically bred it out of them, anyone with the sign of it is killed i would imagine.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 18:11:47
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
Italy
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Might all the cloning they do have some effect on it as well?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 18:19:58
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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I think that they have quite strong spirits in resisting psychic powers but have learned themselves not to use psychic themselves for all the above reasons about Slaanesh. Otherwise they wouldn't need scourges to transmit messages between archons
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DE Kabal fluff
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/338476.page
Human: Why are you so cruel.
DE: Why not. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 18:20:24
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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It shouldn't do... though it might... depends if being psychic is in your DNA or random... more likely to be in your DNA so it shouldn't uness they take away the bits that make you psychic.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 18:55:27
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Which seems like something the Haemonculus would do.
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Slaneesh may seem fun now, but when you find yourself in bed with a he-goat and several implements of pain, you'll know you've gone too far. -Emperor's Faithful
"Oh, Brother Asmodai! Yes, spank me! I've been heretical!"
"Feel the Emperor's judgement, Azrael!"
"Oooh, yes! Purge me! Purge me!" -Cheese Elemental
'In the eye of Terror, it's still the '80's. And that's a good thing.' -Necroagogo |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 18:56:16
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Seems like something to do with the threat of slaanesh in the warp, I think.
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 19:35:36
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Psychic Novitiate selected by a Gatherer
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Yeah, probably something to do with Slan. I always thought about this question too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 21:32:50
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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BuFFo wrote:The ban on Psychic powers in Commorragh is the single rule all Dark Eldar follow as a whole. Doing so would cause Slaneesh to grow in power within Commorragh, and no Dark Eldar would ever want that.
This. Automatically Appended Next Post: thedarksaint wrote:Might all the cloning they do have some effect on it as well?
DE aren't clones they're just in vitro.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 23:02:36
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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They mentioned this in one of the White Dwarf issues when the DE dropped, pretty much saying how the DE's psychic potential has atrophied. (I would also imagine that the amount of self control involved in becoming a powerful psyker runs contrary to the social structure the DE have put in place)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 23:07:59
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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World-Weary Pathfinder
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In the entry of the new DE codex about Scourges, it says one of the reasons that Scourges are valued as messengers is because psychic communication of any kind is strictly forbidden.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 23:20:53
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Mad Gyrocopter Pilot
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Shelegelah wrote:Seems odd to me that the Dark Eldar Codex doesn't have options for psykers, seeing as the Eldar are the most psychically active race in the galaxy.
What's up with this? Any explanation in the codex that I missed, or is this just one of those things?
Whatever governs psychic ability has atrophied amongst the dark eldar. Likely in part to psykers not tending to have children in their society as they're too busy being tortured and killed. Besides its frowned upon having psykers in the Dark Eldar webway city as it could cause trouble with daemons. The webway dimension being so close to the warp and all.
thedarksaint wrote:Might all the cloning they do have some effect on it as well?
They do not clone ( for general procreation. Never know they might do all sorts of vile things with cloning tech otherwise ). Many Dark Eldar are raised in vats that cause accelerated maturation. This is why Trueborn are called such. As they have been raised naturally with the wealth and power of their Kabal at their whim.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 03:12:22
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Tinkering Tech-Priest
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this is all fine and dandy but the dark eldar STILL take psykers and torture them etc etc...so why are other psykers allowed into the dark city (as in why do they capture psykers and torture them full well knowing that other daemons are watching the psykers)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 04:50:11
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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yevix wrote:this is all fine and dandy but the dark eldar STILL take psykers and torture them etc etc...so why are other psykers allowed into the dark city (as in why do they capture psykers and torture them full well knowing that other daemons are watching the psykers)
Uh, actually no. They're not.
It's why one of the Dark Eldar characters(The Hellion Baron, if I remember right) is considered "an outlaw". Because he brought a captured Psyker back into the Dark City. He was to be executed, but managed to escape.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 06:48:06
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Mysterious Techpriest
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Yeah, Baron Sathonyx brought a captured Farseer back, earning the wrath of his Kabal's Archon. And he was exiled, not sent to be executed. He killed the guards escorting him away, prompting the Archon to place a bounty on his head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 07:00:24
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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sexiest_hero wrote:They spent too much time getting off on pain and not using their powers that they have pretty much lost the ability to do so. To top it all off they don't want daemons finding thier way into the Dark city. This from the codex.
That's pretty much it. They also don't see the need for Psykers, as they're more interested in martial prowess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 09:59:56
Subject: Re:No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Irked Blood Angel Scout with Combat Knife
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hehe if their was a DE psyc in the webway well someone might just try and get in and what happens if it does it get in the webway all the eldar go bye and the black library is in the hands of the chaos gods.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 10:20:18
Subject: No Dark Eldar Psykers?
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Mysterious Techpriest
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A) Craftworld psykers use the webway all the time. B) The warp already bleeds into the webway in places, leaving areas infested with daemons and other warp entities. C) The Dark Eldar ban psykers from Commoragh because they don't want to chance drawing daemonic attention to their city, not because psykers are particularly hazardous to the webway.
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