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2011/01/22 13:56:58
Subject: High elves and always strike first question.
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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The question is simple.
High elves got "always strike first" rule.
Swordmasters of Hoeth (plus fe white lions) got great weapons meaning they also get "always strike last"
It says on the rulebook that a model having Asf and Asl meaning they hit on their initiative without asf rule applying.
So a swordmaster of hoeth hits on str 6 on his normal initiative? or does he still grabs the Asf rule and reroll to hit if their initiative is better than the opponents?
Thank you for your time reading this.
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"Each path must be chosen with care,
Lest disaster swallow us whole."
Varo Tigurius
Ultramarines Chief Librarian
Wh40k: Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Black Templars, Grey Knights, Imperial Guard, Inquisition, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Tyranids, Orks, Chaos Space Marines, Daemons of Chaos.
Wh: Dark Elves, Vampire Counts, Empire, Dwarfs, High Elves, Warriors of Chaos, Bretonnia. |
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2011/01/22 15:08:21
Subject: High elves and always strike first question.
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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No, High Elves will "Always Strike First", regardless of the weapons that they carry. It's stated specifically under the "Speed of Asuryan" entry in the codex.
Fluff wise, it's supposed to represent the years spent of rigorous training the Elves went through to master their respective weapons.
So swing away! 
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"This One Is Rurouni... Once Again, This One Will Drift..."
"Rushing towards danger without hesitation isn't recklessness, but bravery... And avoiding danger when there's a chance for victory isn't precaution, but cowardice..."
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2011/01/22 16:03:03
Subject: Re:High elves and always strike first question.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Yes, HEs always hit first.
and congratulations, you have just found the beardiest rule in WHFB 
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2011/01/22 16:31:56
Subject: Re:High elves and always strike first question.
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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Oh My God!
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"Each path must be chosen with care,
Lest disaster swallow us whole."
Varo Tigurius
Ultramarines Chief Librarian
Wh40k: Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Black Templars, Grey Knights, Imperial Guard, Inquisition, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Tyranids, Orks, Chaos Space Marines, Daemons of Chaos.
Wh: Dark Elves, Vampire Counts, Empire, Dwarfs, High Elves, Warriors of Chaos, Bretonnia. |
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2011/01/22 18:52:20
Subject: High elves and always strike first question.
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Cosmic Joe
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Is what people say when your sword masters reach their stuff 
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army.
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2011/01/22 19:19:23
Subject: Re:High elves and always strike first question.
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Swordmasters... the prototypical glass cannon...
I know you just love shooting them with your camo skinks hover
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 2,000 - He alone has the Emperor's soul in his blood.
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2011/01/22 20:30:41
Subject: High elves and always strike first question.
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Cosmic Joe
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Forgot to mention shooting them in the butt, elves dig that 
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army.
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2011/01/22 21:25:09
Subject: High elves and always strike first question.
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Fixture of Dakka
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This is also specifically covered in the HE FAQ (in case somebody queries it).
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2011/01/23 02:53:07
Subject: Re:High elves and always strike first question.
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Sneaky Lictor
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When looking through the Army Book, did anyone else misread 'Lothern Sea Master' as 'Lothern Sea Monster' ? I got so excited then so disappointed.
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The Guide to Cheese:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/A%20Guide%20to%20Cheese |
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2011/01/23 02:59:02
Subject: Re:High elves and always strike first question.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Squash wrote:When looking through the Army Book, did anyone else misread 'Lothern Sea Master' as 'Lothern Sea Monster' ? I got so excited then so disappointed.
You would've loved the Lothern Sea Guard list during Storm of Chaos that actually had a sea monster.
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2011/01/23 03:04:48
Subject: Re:High elves and always strike first question.
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Sneaky Lictor
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You would've loved the Lothern Sea Guard list during Storm of Chaos that actually had a sea monster.
...Aren't games supposed to get BETTER with time?!
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The Guide to Cheese:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/A%20Guide%20to%20Cheese |
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2011/01/23 18:52:18
Subject: High elves and always strike first question.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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the Sea Guard list also let you shoot every unit you had before the game started, which was cheese...
If you have rules questions put them in the YMDC section, its the best place for them!
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2011/01/23 19:05:09
Subject: Re:High elves and always strike first question.
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Cosmic Joe
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Squash wrote:Aren't games supposed to get BETTER with time?!
No. They're supposed to get more profitable, get with the program.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army.
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