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I collect CSM and i won 19 games in a row , and dont really have any worry about losing because i play against a couple of marine players who arent exactlly the best , they have no clue , a eldar player who thinks hes "all that" and a recently turned nid' player , he turnt from marines .

Am i coming on to strong ?

I mean when i used to play against the old marine player who turnt to nids' he used to have like a extra 500-1000 points.

Chaos aren't the most competitive army but do have some strong builds. Obviously if you're playing to win and they're playing for fun you are more likely to win.

Other way around , i play for fun

Well then, you're up against some bad or unlucky players. What list do you run?

Do you want the whole points list ?

with wargear ?

Just the units not the points.

I'm sure you would lose if someone tailored their list, or stepped up their game. Sounds like you play with a sub-par bunch, or just not a very competitive group.
Are you playing a competitive list, or just Cool At All Costs?

2 daemon princes

10 chaos space marines
5 chaos space marines
20 Berzerkers
7 noise marines (making the drummer)
1 Rhino

5 Termies
5 Possessed

1 Obliterator
1 Land raider
1 Defiler

10 summoned bloodletters

Doesn't seem like a WAAC list. You have strong and weak elements. It's likely the people you're playing aren't particularly good or lucky. I know i'm not very lucky... unless what i am trying is completly absurd.

Your win/lose ratio usually has more to do with your ability has a player and the abilities of the people you face.

I know a guy who has won quite a few tournament and has been playing for over 10 years, and he destroys me with his Necron and Tau... while I usually have no problem with Neron and Tau.

In a similar line, my win/lose ratio against CSM is actually quite good.

My chaos loses. Not all the time, but they do.

Most of the time, I lose to stupid stuff, like failing 4 armor saves from lasguns on my single DP. Other times, it's because my army list, while made as balanced list, ends up fighting something very very one sided.

Honestly your list isn't all that powerful, so I'm betting that your opponents aren't as good with their respective armies as you are with yours.

Yup

I've played Chaos ever since I started 40k and I've only won one game with them, against a footslogger Guard player who panicked and surrendered.

chaos lose all the time. Abaddons is on his like 13th crusade? and he failed every time.

Just a heads-up, they're Lesser Daemons, not Bloodletters. If you could summon Bloodletters that would be insane.

Chaos is a pain in the rear to play against, Especially those damned Nurgle Marine lists with double lash of submission b/s they always do.....well most of them anyway.
I only had the privilage to play against one non Nurgle player and he goes with slaanesh and Irks me with his Noise Marine list with his Vindicator. Tears my lists to pieces. Unless I build
a Ork List with the intent that I don't want him to win I usually loose to him.

But With my orks I like to play with stuff that is fun, because using tons of Mega nobs in Trukks (Lower points) or battle Wagons is kinda boring to me when the only thing I do is Run and Waagh and CC attack.

From that list...I am guessing you are going with Khorne? with a little slaanesh, Am I right?

Maybe the dice just keep rolling your way dude. lol the Chaos are a tough army though. They have almost everything a marine army does plus more with all those daemon goodies they get. As a marine player I'm 50/50 when I play them. Sometimes they stem roll me and other times I steam roll them. Maybe your just good lol, or maybe your opponents are incompetent XD.

I like Chaos Space Marines
btw it's pretty nice you have won 19 games in a row. Good job! I hope it's you that are the better Tactician then your opponents that are bad players.

I think he need to face a Pure or mixed GK army. Atleast before the rules change on the NFW

Sounds like you're clubbing baby seals. No one wins 19 games straight unless it's against terribad opponents, or they are absurdly lucky - even if it's just a few draws.

Alternatively, you are incorrectly playing certain rules in a horribly wrong and overpowered fashion.

I was thinking of getting some nugrle next , then tzeentch.

Any thoughts , suggestions ?

I'm the Ex marine guy-I'll say now that the first.. 5 or so games we barely played with the right rules, and didn't even had codexes

Yes, chaos lose, just like SM, IG, Tau, Blood Angels, and every other codex. What lists are you playing against? They must either be sketchy or be doing something terribly wrong, as your list doesn't look like it would put up much of a fight itself.


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Wait.. how are you summoning bloodletters? I thought the only things you could summon was Greater/Lesser Daemons.

I have been playing Chaos since 1986 and loose very rarely, SCM's are close combat specilists and I have always used that factor. Knorne and Nurgle based armies tend to be strong, but they are not invulnerable to say pie spam attacks or even better an all Tank force. Winning all those games in a row is telling me your opponents stratagies and game play are on a different level. Try facing other opponents for a tougher game play.

Chaos isnt that good that you think. I usually win against chaos depending of course what Im playing. If you win 19 in row you must be pro to win against IG wich is best army in 40k or you are just more experienced than your opponents.

Im using the bloodletters as lesser daemons.

Should i get some plague marines , or thousand sons ?




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DrownedRat117 wrote:I'm the Ex marine guy-I'll say now that the first.. 5 or so games we barely played with the right rules, and didn't even had codexes

We used the shops codexs and asked the shop assisants for help

You should focus on more basic CSM before cult troops. If you focus on cult troops too much, your lists will be WAY too small.

In all honesty, the list you posted wouldn't stand up to even one of the "I want to see if this idea works..." armies of my local game group. That's not to even mention a list made to win.

Eric

Yeah , i was thinking that , gonna get some more marines first