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2011/01/25 07:05:13
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Preceptor
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He Guy's,
I'm Confussed.....
The Bloodthirster has a 4+ save in his profile, but also has the Iron Hide Daemonic gift wich would grand him a 3+ save???
If I give my Daemon prince the Iron Hide option and the Mark of Tzeentch, does he have a 3+ save and an 4+ inv. save?
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2011/01/25 07:15:40
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Yes, a DP with Iron Hide and MoT has both a 3+ armor save and a 4+ Invul. save.
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2011/01/25 13:40:44
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
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All saves in the Daemon codex are invul saves...only the Iron Hide addition gives an armor save.
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2011/01/25 13:46:14
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As noted in the DoC book, anytime you see a "save" mentioned it is an Invulnerable save, not an armour save.
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2011/01/26 06:26:30
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Preceptor
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So A daemon with Iron Hide has a 4+ inv. and a 3+ armour save?
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2011/01/26 07:03:16
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Tilter at Windmills
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Depends on the daemon; I think most daemons only come with a 5+ inv. A Daemon Prince of Tzeentch would have a 4+ Inv, and if you also gave him Iron Hide, he'd get a 3+ armor save too.
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2011/01/26 08:38:24
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It depends on the daemon, as Mann said - the base Daemon save is 5++, and some get an improved save if they take MoT (Daemon Princes)
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2011/01/26 11:31:46
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Lord of the Fleet
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Shenra wrote:All saves in the Daemon codex are invul saves...only the Iron Hide addition gives an armor save.
Not enormously useful most of the time but very handy against psycannons (where you lose your invulnerable but not your armour)
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2011/01/26 12:31:27
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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The quick way to remember what invul a daemon has is to go through 3 stages. Is it a non-tzeentch, non- GD? If so, 5+ Is it a tzeentch, non- GD OR a non-tzeentch GD? If so, 4+ Is it a Tzeentch GD? If so, 3+ EDIT: Or think: 5+ Base +1 if Tzeentch +1 if GD. Both stack. 
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2011/01/26 12:49:00
Subject: Daemon Iron Hide
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Outwith HQ/Daemon Princes, I believe the only thing in the Daemon Codex which gets an armour save is Juggernauts of Khorne.
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