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Anchorage,AK

Tyrant, Cathayan Longsword(+1 WS and I)-210
Slaughtermaster, Biting Blade(-1 to armor saves)-210
Slaughtermaster, Tormentor Sword(monster/ char. stupid w/ a wound)-205
Total Lords: 625

Hunter-145
Hunter-145
Hunter-145
Hunter-145
Total Heroes: 580

5x Ironguts, Standard Bearer, Rune Maw-280
5x Bulls, Ironfist, LA, Standard Bearer-235
5x Bulls, Ironfist, LA, Standard Bearer-235
8x Gnoblar Trappers-48
8x Gnoblar Trappers-48
Total Core: 846

4x Leadblechers-220
4x Leadbelchers-220
Total Special: 440

Total Points: 2491

Tyrant goes with the Ironguts and a Slaughtermaster with each bull unit. After that... it's pretty obvious. Could it work? What could be done differently/better?
All (constructive input is welcome!

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Your tyrant is way under-armored. He needs magic armor or a ward save ASAP, high toughness will only get him so far when he gets stuck in a massive infantry horde.

Slaughtermasters aren't for killing, they are for buffing. They need ward saves to ensure they don't kill themselves, and I would suggest giving one the Halfling cookbook, the Wyrdstone Pendent is also very good for its cost.

You need a BSB, and you have too many hunters as is, IMO. I'd drop one at least for a BSB, and myabe another to get more Bulls in.

I see you have a runemaw, solid choice, though you lack any units to follow it around and take the spells intended for it. A cheap 20 Gnoblar unit will work wonders.

I'd drop all those leadbealchers, grab a Scrap Launcher or two.

As a whole, too many characters, not enough bulls. 5 ironguts won't do much, and 5 bulls even less. I'd try and add an ogre to every unit if I could.


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Anchorage,AK

How's this;

Tyrant, Cathayan LS
Slaughtermaster, Biting Blade
Slaughtermaster Tormentor Sword

Hunter
Hunter
Bruiser BSB, Glittering Scales, GW, Wallcrusher

6 Bulls, Standard Bearer, LA
6 Bulls, Standard Bearer, LA
6 Ironguts, Standard Bearer, Rune Maw
8 Trappers
8 Trappers
20 Gnoblars

Scraplauncher
Scraplauncher

Comes to 2408, My tyrant and my slaughtermasters still lack armor/wards but that's the prce I'm paing for good(for ogres) magic. It feels like it lacks real threat to others while I'm approaching but I'm not sur ehow to remedy that... maybe finding points for pistol maneaters?

EDIT- Sorry, that's 2408 pints... 92 free ones...

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Albany, NY

When I saw the quadruple hunters I definitely raised a couple eyebrows! Now though I think two is much more sane - as a guy who's tried to make one hunter work, they really aren't that great I do think you have some equipment to juggle around, perhaps something like ...

L: Tyrant - mawseeker, dragonbane gem, CLS = 225
L: Slaughtermaster = 200
L: Slaughtermaster = 200

H: Bruiser - BSB, talisman of preservation, ironcurse icon, GW = 213
H: Hunter = 145
H: Hunter = 145

C: 7 Ironguts - rune maw, standard, bellower = 386
C: 7 Bulls - standard, bellower = 275
C: 6 Bulls - standard, bellower = 240
C: 8 Trappers = 48
C: 8 Trappers = 48
C: 20 Fighters = 40

S: Scraplauncher = 165
S: Scraplauncher = 165
---------
2495

The slaughtermasters' little magic weapons weren't doing much - I find mine so rarely hits that it isn't really worth buying him anything - so I put their % into giving the tyrant T6 and a 2+ ward vs fire (including the various fire snipes, etc). BSB got much simpler, and I think better, survival gear in the 4+ ward, and I popped another irongut into the tyrant's unit to give them more numbers for making it across the field and killing things (and to run 4-wide). I also got bellowers for all units that could take them, because frankly it's silly not to take a musician, particularly in 8th - AND because that means you've got two command models in both bull units, so if you put the BSB in one you can push a slaughtermaster to the second rank.

At this point I had 45 points left, so gave the BSB an ironcurse to save his buddies from a few artillery wounds, and then grabbed another bull, again for more bodies. Now you have another unit that could go 4x2 + BSB, or 3x3 + BSB + SM (in second rank). And now there's 5 floating points, probably good for a look-out gnoblar somewhere or heavy armor on the BSB or something.

- Salvage

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Anchorage,AK

I like it, and the Slaughtermasters aren't for killing things so it makes sense to spend their points on the tyrant. And more bodies is good, seems like plenty of ogres to do the killing and a little corps of gnoblars as well. Both of y''alls help was much appreciated!

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Lawrence, KS

I don't think you need 2 slaughtermasters, personally. What do slaughtermasters get you that Butchers don't? I would take one of each instead. This frees up further points. For the cost of those hunters you could take ANOTHER scraplauncher. Maybe people worry about their unreliability, but for 20 more PPM than a Hunter, they are fare more efficient for thinning out hordes. When it comes to killing knights, well... who does the job better than Ogres? As has been pointed out, Bruisers do the job better than Hunters do when it comes to killing. Theyre more cost efficient and easier to protect. If you want solos running around killing warmachines or hitting flanks, I would recommend solo Maneaters: character level power for a bargain cost.

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