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Q. Do models in the second or subsequent ranks of a unit get to make
supporting attacks when Incantation of Righteous Smiting is cast
upon them? (p35)
A. Yes. However, note that they only make a single, normal
close combat attack, and therefore can’t inflict Impact Hits or
make Stomp attacks.


This would seem to suggest that models in the first Rank DO get to make these additional attacks

This would mean you get 2 impact phases for chariots in the first rank...
This would mean you get stomp attacks from Ushabti in the first rank...
This woudl mean you get thunderstomp attacks from Bone Giants in the first rank...

How slimy am I?

No extra attacks for you.
The says 1 attacks for the front rank only.
The FAQ says, 1 attacks for supporting.

Just because they don't restate that the 1st rank is limited to 1 attack does not mean you suddenly gain more abilities.
-Matt

As above, the restriction already exists in the incantations rules.

Fantasy, like most games, tells you what you CAN do. If you can't find something that lets you do X, you cannot do X.

True, but wouldn't the wording of the FAQ be much tighter?

Seriously, how hard is it to write: Yes they may only make a single, normal close combat attack. Also worthy of note, is that the incantation of righteous smiting does not grant impact, stomp, or thunderstop attacks.

While I normally agree with you Nosferaty. The wording of the FAQ here is one of the few times you can logically flip a negative to a positive without committing to a logical fallacy. It's *that* poorly worded.

What part of "a single normal attack" applies to stomps and impacts?
Because that is all the incantation grants.

Like many rules and FAQs, it *could* have been tighter. But there's pretty clear restrictions in place. Reading any more in to that answer is really stretching. I wouldn't go for it if I were you.

Don't intend to. Just had a "Wait What" moment last night, thought I would share.

Because they thought people would read both the rule and the FAQ together.

And, as I explained, you could not "flip" it round: you're still making the "it doesnt say I cant" argument, which is invalid in a permissive game system.

Oookay. So, here I am again. You're all totally right, of course, but I do also see where Ragnar is coming from.
I think it could get confusing as follows:

Q: "Do models in the second rank get supporting attacks?"

A: "Yes [the models in the second rank get supporting attacks], however, note that they only make a single attack".

Correct me if I'm wrong, Ragnar, but when the answer states "they", it seems to reference the models in the second rank, as they're the only guys we're talking about here.
I think that's what's going on.

Once again, though, the rules are clear, if you read the two books side-by-side. I'm just saying that there is, in fact, room for confusion (which is an undeniable fact. If it wasn't, this thread wouldn't exist).

Warpsolution wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, Ragnar, but when the answer states "they", it seems to reference the models in the second rank, as they're the only guys we're talking about here.
I think that's what's going on.

100% correct here. Semantics of the sentance allow for a flip of logic.


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Although I did see where chariot impact hits are clearly removed per the rules in the splatbook.