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I posted this idea up in my blog a while ago, and never brought it here.

First Idea: Counts as a dred
ws:5 bs:2 s:5 I:2 a:4 front: 12 sides:12 rear:12
Wargear: autocannon, deff gun, twinlinked big shoota, and assault cannon. Also had dred ccw and ammo runt

Rules:
Waaagh!
Oi! Mekboy!
So much dakka
Steadfast

Oi! Mekboy: If a mekboy or big mek is in base contact, He may attempt to repair a 'weapon destroyed' or 'imobilized' on a 3+
So much dakka: Goldmaw must choose one weapon to use each shooting phase. In addition, he may make one special attack with either his burna (the dred flamer under the ccw) or a rokkit launcha (the multiple rokkits all over him).
Steadfast: Goldmaw may ignore any 'crew shaken' or 'crew stunned' on a roll of 5+

Other idea: Mega armored boss
ws:5 bs:2 s:5 t:5 w:4 I:3 a:4 Ld: 9 Sv: 2+
Wargear: autocannon, deff gun, twinlinked big shoota, assault cannon, Arma' of Piolux, power klaw and ammo runt
Rules:
IC
Furious Charge
Arma' of Piolux,
Waaagh!
So much dakka
Cybork body
Mob Rule
Arma' of Piolux: Goldmaw's looted dreadnought armor. it confers the 'slow and purposeful' rule, and a 2+ armor save. He may only join a meganob unit because of the size of the armor.
So much dakka: Goldmaw must choose one weapon to use each shooting phase. In addition, he may make one special attack with either his burna (the dred flamer under the klaw) or a rokkit launcha (the multiple rokkits all over him).

Any suggestions for points cost, or a third idea (possibly MC?)
also, here is the man himself


(more pics etc here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/321201.page)

I love the idea myself. Put's the AOBR boss to shame at least! I would suggest that the second set of rules is better, because otherwise he would just be a glorified deffdred.

A third set of rules could be useful, but it's 22:46 where I live so any that I try to come up with would be fraught with errors.

That aside, he's a beautiful boss.

Thanks

I think I should add some rule to make him have MC rules (?) but I'm not sure.
I don't have the main rule book... (heresy, I know)

That things is...I didn't know there was so much dakka possible! That thing is awesome! Maybe give it Open topped too kind balance out the dakkariness as well as give it a more 'orky' feel?

holy good god, that thing is BEAST!

I feel if I say more DAKKA then I will get hit by at least 10 rockets with scores more missing in just one volley. A beauty of a model! A true Ork!

I think I should add something like ' roll a d6 before shooting. 2-5 acts normally. 1 the overload of dakka seizes up, he may only make close combat attacks this turn, along with the 1 rokkit or burna attack. On a 6, may Gork and Mork have mercy on your soul, Str 8/9 Ap (?) big blast'
Does that sound good?

I say on a one the dakka misfires, and he takes a penetrating hit. Really balances him out.

Also, the MC sounds best to me... but again, that's just me.

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:I say on a one the dakka misfires, and he takes a penetrating hit. Really balances him out.

Also, the MC sounds best to me... but again, that's just me.

Well, if he is a MC or armored boss, he should take a couple str 5 hits or something.
Or the machine spirit makes him fire at a friendly unit, or something

You know, I really like that (2-5 acts normally, 1 takes a wound, 6 FIRES EVERYTHING!) rule. Real orky, with the right balance of self-damage and others-damage that makes Orks so much fun.

Anvildude wrote:You know, I really like that (2-5 acts normally, 1 takes a wound, 6 FIRES EVERYTHING!) rule. Real orky, with the right balance of self-damage and others-damage that makes Orks so much fun.

I agree. Makes it really orky fun!

Chowderhead, how often do you change your avatar?

I'd say, since he has so many weapons, every turn, roll a D6. The number rolled coresponds with the number of weapons he can fire that turn. If you get a 6, he takes a wound from overloading and instead of firing his normal weapons, he just lays down one bigass scary template(focused fire?).

FETHING AMAZIN!!! I like the above posters idea, seems pretty good. I would also like the second option, for him to be a super MANz rather than just a super dread. Also, sence auto cannons are just deffguns with heavy 2 instead of heavy D3, maybe you should just call it an extra deffgun, or make the deffgun TL. Also, the Arma' of Piolux needs an extra little ability to really count as special armour, because right now it's just plain 'ol mega armour. Maybe also have it confer a 4++ save. Or make it so that only strength 5 or above weapons can harm him, representing that most small arms cannot penetrate his armour.

I like the 4++ save idea.

And Fafnir, I really like your idea, but should a roll of a one do something orky/ negative?

I figure taking a wound to use the special attack on a 6 would be enough punishment.

That, and you only get to fire one weapon. That kind of sucks too.

If you would, here's the rewrite I would give it:

Warboss Goldmaw
Cost: 250 points
WS: 5 BS: 2 S:5 I:2 A:4 Front:13 Sides:12: Rear:11

Wargear:
-2*Deffguns
-Twin-Linked Big Shoota
-Assault Cannon
-Twin-Linked Rokkit Launcha
-Skorcha
-Dreadnaught Close Combat Weapon

Special Rules:
-Waaagh!
Oi! Mekboy!: If a Mekboy or Big Mek is in base Contact with Goldmaw, his Mek's Tools work on a 3+ instead of a 4+
Steadfast: Goldmaw is immune to "Crew Stunned" and "Crew Shaken" results on the damage table.
So Much Dakka!: At the beginning of your shooting phase, roll a D6. If the roll is between 1-5, then Goldmaw may fire that many weapons during the shooting phase. If you roll a 6, then Goldmaw suffers a glancing hit and may only fire a weapon with the following profile during the following shooting phase (apply the glancing hit at the end of your shooting phase):

Too Much Dakka! Range: 48" S:10 AP:2 Heavy 1, Large Blast Template, Ordnance 1

That model is an ork, more orkier than any I have ever seen.

I would say that this is, at the very least, tied with the Mr. Potato Head Killa Kan conversion.

Fafnir wrote:So Much Dakka!: At the beginning of your shooting phase, roll a D6. If the roll is between 1-5, then Goldmaw may fire that many weapons during the shooting phase. If you roll a 6, then Goldmaw suffers a glancing hit and may only fire a weapon with the following profile during the following shooting phase:

Too Much Dakka! Range: 48" S:10 AP:2 Heavy 1, Large Blast Template, Ordnance 1

I assume the effects of rolling a 6 would take place AFTER shooting Too Much Dakka, because if you got stunned, shaken or weapon destroyed that would just suck.
That would, on the other hand, look nice if you are lucky enough to suffer 1 to 6 weapon destroyed results and surviving, as it still allows to shoot a whole brand new weapon (impossible to destroy since it's more an "ability" than a weapon) available even if stripped all other 6 listed.

Yes, of course the result would be placed after firing. I worded that very poorly, I'll correct it.

Although it's worth noting that, based on the rules I wrote, it couldn't suffer a Stunned or Shaken result anyway.

Yeah , that still leaves the phantom weapon issue (which I find nice to leave as it looks).

Well, would an Ork stop pulling the trigger even if he was out of ammo or his weapons were torn to pieces? Of course not!

I dig your rewrite Fafnir, the only problem I see is for such a powerful attack, you only suffer a glancing hit, and 2 of those results dont effect him. Id add that ontop of the glance result he cannot move or shoot his next turn because of the over load. That way your not just getting a super badass attack, and laughing most of the result off.

Also I think the meks rolling a 3+ to repair things on him seems too good. I dont see how his weapons and armor would be easier to fix then anything else. Other then that he looks pretty good.

Is your group going to allow a made up SC battle Brother Lucifer? Or is this something you just felt like playing around with?

Well, I figure that the super attack is kind of balanced by the fact that it's completely random as to when you can use it, and even when you do use it, there's a 1/3rd chance of it doing some very harmful damage. On average, you'll only get to use it once per game anyway.

Although it might be worth bumping him up by 50 points.

Yea, that would balance him out some, raising the cost that is

KC, I don't have a group


And fafnir, I also dig your rewrite, but I just thought of something I forgot to mention.


Its hard to see from that pic (if at all) but he has a crane-like device with a missile and camera attached to it on his shoulder.

I was thinking about a rule similar to Lukas' 'The Last Laugh'
'Knowing cowards would try to match his feats of shooting, Warboss Goldmaw rigged up a fail-safe missile to his chasis. If Warboss Goldmaw is destroyed by a shooting attack, he may fire a rokkit with the regular profile (but with unlimited range, in case of a Broadside, or something) and the unit that destroyed him'

Does that sound like a good rule, or should I just scrap it?

And when I finally get around to playing, it'll probably happen with some friends with weird armies etc.
I may go get an army case and lug all my stuff to the closes FLGS (about 45 minutes ) and ask, but I think the rule of cool will allow him to be played.

I wouldn't do the 'last laugh' rule. He's already got plenty based on the profile that I wrote up. Adding something else would not only make him more of a pain in the ass to play with (more complicated), it would also warrant an increase in price. And with his BS, that increase just wouldn't be justified.

BBL: THought I posted an MC template; it didn't show up. If you want it, PM me.

THe Last Laugh I think would not go over well... even Lukas can't do it right...

What's more, the chances of it actually hitting are low enough to make it mostly useless anyway. I'm not a fan of rules that are largely useless and are there for nothing more than flavour text. That's what fluff is for.

That, and I figure that it could be represented by the fact that I wrote the rokkit launcha as being twin linked.