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Okay... normally when I turbo Wazdakka, I usually only fire either his Dakkaguns or Dakkakannon (so that he get's the 3+ cover save).

I played a tournament today and my opponent was surprised that I only fired his Dakkakannon. He told me that Wazzie can fire all of his weapons.

What the FETH!!!??!??!

Now mind you this is my opponent tell me this (what?!!?!). He proceeded to tell me that in the Ork Codex in Wazzie's description of "The Bike of the Aporkalyspe" that "When Wazdakka uses a Turbo Boost he may still fire his weapons that turn." Weapons... as in plural... it says that "he may"... as in having a choice to fire his weapons...

He is armed with a KMB, Dakkakannon and Dakkagun... my opponent preceeded to tell me to fire all those weapons. I didn't do that since I've always played it by only choosing one of the three weapons to shoot.

However, I remember reading somewhere in BRB that you can only fire one weapon (where is that? page? I can't find it).

Or... is this a case that Codex trumps BRB?

I know I've seen other non-vehicle models being able to shoot more than one weapon... like the Dark Angels "Attack Bike"... but, the DA Codex says the Attack Bike can shoot both weapons (MM and Bolters). So there seems to be precedent...

Irregardless, I'll continue to play Wazzie by just shooting one weapon during the turbo boost.

I'm curious what ya'll think?

Page 60 in the dex.

I quote:

"When Wazdakka uses a Turbo Boost he may still fire his weapons that turn."

Your friend seems to be right.

Sixalicious wrote:Page 60 in the dex.

I quote:

"When Wazdakka uses a Turbo Boost he may still fire his weapons that turn."

Your friend seems to be right.

Dude.... SERIOUSLY!!! I've been playing Wazzie wrong?

That'd make him worth his points... albeit... it's still BS2.

I thought the fact he gives you troop Warbikers made him worth the points =P

Yeah, the fact he's BS2 balances it out, I think. For instance, MEQ captain on bike with plasma cannon and tl bolters that can shoot both after boosting... No.

Sixalicious wrote:I thought the fact he gives you troop Warbikers made him worth the points =P

Yeah, the fact he's BS2 balances it out, I think. For instance, MEQ captain on bike with plasma cannon and tl bolters that can shoot both after boosting... No.

Most folks don't like Wazzie because a regular fully decked out warboss on a bike is cheaper and much better than Wazzie(less wounds and not as strong). And making Warbiker troops isn't all that unless you go all biker army. I don't, I field two units of warbikers and 4 trukks full of boys... so, troops ain't the problem.

I didn't know about the MEQ captain on the bike...

Thanks for your input.

That was an example, I'm pretty sure (or rather, I hope) that isn't possible =P

As for warbikers, T5 fast troops with the possibility of having a S6 Nob in each squad for 5 points, not to mention the constant 4+ cover? I quite like them =)

I don't think "weapons" is meant to imply that he can fire multiple weapons at once.

The default condition in 40k is that a non-vehicle model can only fire one weapon on any given turn, and if it has more than one is has to choose. Some units have special rules allowing them to fire more than one (like Monstrous Creatures, or Terminators with Cyclone Launchers).

Does Wazdakka have a rule that he can fire multiple weapons when moving at normal speed?

If not, then my interpretation would be that when he Turbos you may fire any one of his "weapons" as normal.

Mannahnin wrote:I don't think "weapons" is meant to imply that he can fire multiple weapons at once.

The default condition in 40k is that a non-vehicle model can only fire one weapon on any given turn, and if it has more than one is has to choose. Some units have special rules allowing them to fire more than one (like Monstrous Creatures, or Terminators with Cyclone Launchers).

Does Wazdakka have a rule that he can fire multiple weapons when moving at normal speed?

If not, then my interpretation would be that when he Turbos you may fire any one of his "weapons" as normal.

No... he doesn't have a special rule to file multiple weapons when moving normally... hence why I play as only firing one weapon.

I found it a curious statement...

Mannahnin wrote:I don't think "weapons" is meant to imply that he can fire multiple weapons at once.

The default condition in 40k is that a non-vehicle model can only fire one weapon on any given turn, and if it has more than one is has to choose. Some units have special rules allowing them to fire more than one (like Monstrous Creatures, or Terminators with Cyclone Launchers).

Does Wazdakka have a rule that he can fire multiple weapons when moving at normal speed?

If not, then my interpretation would be that when he Turbos you may fire any one of his "weapons" as normal.

The general conception is that he can fire all of his weapons no matter how far he moves.

If what you said is true, I'm confused as to why GW felt the need to clarify he can still fire after turbo-boosting in the dex.

Without a rule specifying that he can fire multiple weapons, the statement that he can fire his weapons when he boosts should be read as:
"When Wazdakka uses a Turbo Boost he may still fire [any of] his weapons that turn."
rather than:
"When Wazdakka uses a Turbo Boost he may still fire [all of] his weapons that turn."
...as he can't normally fire 'all of' his weapons on the same turn... so the 'still' in the statement wouldn't make any sense if the latter were the correct interpretation.

Interesting.

Sixalicious wrote:
If what you said is true, I'm confused as to why GW felt the need to clarify he can still fire after turbo-boosting in the dex.

Ummm, because you cannot normally fire after turboboosting. That's the special part for him, not an ability to fire all weapons, just the ability to fire anything at all after turboboosting.

Does Wazdakka still have his grot Fixit on the bike? That would allow him to fire 2 guns per turn by virtue of having 2 riders. (Ref Space marine attack bike)

Codex isn't on me at the moment otherwise I'd check myself.

(heh, first post 'n all.... )

He has no Grot Fixit; also unless the fixit was specifically not a Grot oiler(or similar) it would not count as a second model for # of weapons Wazdakka could fire(or any other purposes).
Ref: page 34 of the Ork Dex, last sentence of Grot oiler.