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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/13 22:50:01
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Here is something i have often wondered about if the Emperor resurrected to rule the Imperium again and called all of his surviving sons ( the primarchs ) to his side would he reinstate the legions to undertake another great crusade?
while I understand the codex astartes was written to make sure that no one person ever controlled that much power again. It was also written after the emperor had fallen so was it what he would have wished or was it just an idea by one of his
sons that seemed logical at the time?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/02/13 23:18:06
Heralds of Rot CSM 4000 pts
"In short there is no Order only Chaos eternal so lament and be quelled with fear if you serve the False Emperor or accept the gifts bestowed by the pantheon of the four gods and rejoice as the galaxy burns." - Unknown Wordbearer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 02:32:25
Subject: Re:The Emperor and the Legions
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The Conquerer
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Actually, while the Emperor was on the Throne at the time the Codex was written he was still capable of talking to people and Gulliman most likely presented the work to the Emperor for approval.
the Emperor's body has slowly decayed over the centuries, but at the beginning he was still funtional, like a person on life support at a hospital might be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 02:40:10
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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He might let them stay chapters but form them into large crusade elements (like legions but still independent of each other)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 02:40:35
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Alot of the art depicts the golden throne as literally being something like hospital life support, with the Emperor being a shrivelled up old man.
His return will likely herald the return of the remaining loyal primarchs who are currently MIA (as several of them are confirmed dead) Fulgrim might be the sole Daemon Primarch that can redeem himself, as technically it isnt him as the Daemon Prince right now, but the Slaaneshi daemon controlling him. The others, however, will likely be destroyed in the coming battle. The Emperor will likely abolish religious practices again, but will probably go back to working on the webway gate he was trying to finish just prior to the Horus Heresy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 03:00:16
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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purplefood wrote:He might let them stay chapters but form them into large crusade elements (like legions but still independent of each other)
Interesting thought. That does seem very likely and would be pretty cool.
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Heralds of Rot CSM 4000 pts
"In short there is no Order only Chaos eternal so lament and be quelled with fear if you serve the False Emperor or accept the gifts bestowed by the pantheon of the four gods and rejoice as the galaxy burns." - Unknown Wordbearer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 03:44:04
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
Kicking the crap out of Hive fleet Leviathan
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MechaEmperor7000 i wouldn't out cast all of these chaos Primarchs just yet i mean they have bean blessed by the chaos gods on top of they're already known strength they are insainly tough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 04:06:09
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Eldrad wrote:MechaEmperor7000 i wouldn't out cast all of these chaos Primarchs just yet i mean they have bean blessed by the chaos gods on top of they're already known strength they are insainly tough.
I'm sure it will take great effort to kill the Chaos tainted Primarchs even with a reborn emperor. Who knows it may be the case that the daemon primarchs can't truly be killed just sent screaming back into the warp. Whatever the case may be I'm
confident that the Emperor will make every effort to kill and erase the taint of his errant sons.
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Heralds of Rot CSM 4000 pts
"In short there is no Order only Chaos eternal so lament and be quelled with fear if you serve the False Emperor or accept the gifts bestowed by the pantheon of the four gods and rejoice as the galaxy burns." - Unknown Wordbearer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 08:09:07
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Bloodfrenzy187 wrote:Eldrad wrote:MechaEmperor7000 i wouldn't out cast all of these chaos Primarchs just yet i mean they have bean blessed by the chaos gods on top of they're already known strength they are insainly tough.
I'm sure it will take great effort to kill the Chaos tainted Primarchs even with a reborn emperor. Who knows it may be the case that the daemon primarchs can't truly be killed just sent screaming back into the warp. Whatever the case may be I'm
confident that the Emperor will make every effort to kill and erase the taint of his errant sons.
If 200 GK termies can kill Angron and 13 Greater daemons, 1 Emperor should do it easy
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"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 08:24:40
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I think that the best idea for resurrect Emperor is to make a LEGIONS of GREY KNIGHTS, and send them to Chaos infested worlds to liberate them. Then focus on Necron and Tyranid problem while GK clean those planets.
But do you think that Emperor would make an alliance between Imperium, Eldar and Tau?
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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
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"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 14:35:02
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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purplefood wrote:Bloodfrenzy187 wrote:Eldrad wrote:MechaEmperor7000 i wouldn't out cast all of these chaos Primarchs just yet i mean they have bean blessed by the chaos gods on top of they're already known strength they are insainly tough.
I'm sure it will take great effort to kill the Chaos tainted Primarchs even with a reborn emperor. Who knows it may be the case that the daemon primarchs can't truly be killed just sent screaming back into the warp. Whatever the case may be I'm
confident that the Emperor will make every effort to kill and erase the taint of his errant sons.
If 200 GK termies can kill Angron and 13 Greater daemons, 1 Emperor should do it easy
True but there were only a handful of GK temies left afterward so it wasn't that easy per say. A full company of termies lost is a pretty big hit to any chapter to take down one target.
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Heralds of Rot CSM 4000 pts
"In short there is no Order only Chaos eternal so lament and be quelled with fear if you serve the False Emperor or accept the gifts bestowed by the pantheon of the four gods and rejoice as the galaxy burns." - Unknown Wordbearer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 21:28:10
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte
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Besides, he wasn't _killed_, just banished for a millennium. It's virtually impossible to truly destroy a Daemon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 22:00:55
Subject: Re:The Emperor and the Legions
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Very true Exopheric, Angron was just banished not out-rightly killed and it cost the GK nearly all of the forces they sent against him. So I'm pretty sure the Emperor would have a hell of a fight on his hands and he may well be the only living being
capable of truly killing a daemon.
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Heralds of Rot CSM 4000 pts
"In short there is no Order only Chaos eternal so lament and be quelled with fear if you serve the False Emperor or accept the gifts bestowed by the pantheon of the four gods and rejoice as the galaxy burns." - Unknown Wordbearer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 23:47:24
Subject: Re:The Emperor and the Legions
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Bloodfrenzy187 wrote:Very true Exopheric, Angron was just banished not out-rightly killed and it cost the GK nearly all of the forces they sent against him. So I'm pretty sure the Emperor would have a hell of a fight on his hands and he may well be the only living being capable of truly killing a daemon.
i did mean killed in the sense of they stabbed him until he stopped moving and not the sense of he will never come back... Big E could kill him (properly) but it would take a lot out of him.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 23:55:53
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Eldrad wrote:MechaEmperor7000 i wouldn't out cast all of these chaos Primarchs just yet i mean they have bean blessed by the chaos gods on top of they're already known strength they are insainly tough.
Some of them would probably rejoin the Emperor if he had learned from his bad parenting. Mortarion, Fulgrim, and Magnus weren't exactly enthused about joining chaos.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 01:25:45
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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DarknessEternal wrote:Eldrad wrote:MechaEmperor7000 i wouldn't out cast all of these chaos Primarchs just yet i mean they have bean blessed by the chaos gods on top of they're already known strength they are insainly tough.
Some of them would probably rejoin the Emperor if he had learned from his bad parenting. Mortarion, Fulgrim, and Magnus weren't exactly enthused about joining chaos.
At this point I have the feeling it may be to late for the fallen primarchs to rejoin the imperium most of them have become daemons and as far as I know there is no coming back from that.
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Heralds of Rot CSM 4000 pts
"In short there is no Order only Chaos eternal so lament and be quelled with fear if you serve the False Emperor or accept the gifts bestowed by the pantheon of the four gods and rejoice as the galaxy burns." - Unknown Wordbearer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 16:50:48
Subject: Re:The Emperor and the Legions
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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I can't remember where I read it, but I think Magnus did show some regret when he betrayed the Emperor, and that he felt 'empty inside' when he was mortally wounded by Horus, but he believed that he couldn't go back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 22:29:10
Subject: The Emperor and the Legions
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Botchulaz a greater daemon of nurgle from the space wolf books states that the emperor isnt powerful enough i quote" You cant kill me really, not even your Emperor could do that, I met him once you know?" Now this could just be Chaos lies as other evidence suggests that the emperor is a very real threat to daemons, why else would the chaos gods have fled from Horus when the Emperor gathered his power to erase him and destroy his soul?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 22:41:49
Subject: Re:The Emperor and the Legions
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The Conquerer
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Horus was practically elevated to Deamonhood with all the fell powers the gods gave him.
the Chaos gods could probably have snatched Horus's soul when the Emperor killed him and just made a Deamon body for him.
but the Emperor destroyed Horus, mind, body, and soul. Obliterating a Soul is probably the same as destroying a Deamon utterly. there are instances of puny humans destroying Deamons, Eisenhorn completely destroys a deamonhost. the Deamon wasn't just banished, but completely erased from existance.
the Emperor, quite possably, was even a direct threat to the Chaos Gods. certaintly his plan to make humanity not require the Warp for any purpose would have severed the Chaos gods from the mortal realm, and their source of playthings and ensuing battles over playthings. no more Skulls for the Skull Throne, no more mortals to infect with disease, no more mortals to have "Fun" with. Tzeench might not care, but thats aside the point because Tzeench isn't even sure he exists
weather the Emperor could actually destroy the Chaos gods is a good, but impossable to answer question.
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