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What do Space Wolves Wulfens look?

I've seen models but usually they are custom made

Also my friend told me that some Space wolves that succumb to the wulfen strain become fenrisian wolves themselves instead of the traditional look werewolves; is that true? (that would be pretty cool imo)

Hmm I've read the space wolf omnibus several times and it deals with the wulfen issue quite comprehensively. It makes no mention that a warrior who becomes wolf bitten (this is how they refer to the condition sometimes they dont actually get bitten by a wolf) actually transforming into a wolf, they tend to turn slowly at first getting hairier more aggressive, their eyes turn yellow, then they gain claws and eventually go through the classic hollywood werewolf morph, once transformed they have varying degrees of control, some go mad and turn on their brothers (and anyone else in the vicinity) others can stay in control depending on their experience in dealing with the beast and their own willpower.

If interested in space wolves I definately recommend the space wolf omnibuses.

It's basically a fault with the geneseed, where if a man feels resent or can't keep in control of the beast during time they are turned in spahs mahreens, like the red thirst. The Wulfen that make up the 13th company are genrally more in control, as they were space marines and fought off transformation first time round, so have willpower strong enough to keep control of the beast, although this can slip away in battle.

This unit had rules in the Eye of Terror campaign booklet. The famous 13th Company was once ordered by Leman Russ to hunt down the Thousand Sons, then was lost from Imperial records. During Abaddon's 13th crusade, they reappeared from the Eye of Terror but were affected by the warp turning them into those Wolfen. GW released a metal box with miniatures for them. Currently, Maxmini releases werewolf heads usable for conversions.

Here are the models released by GW. I still use them to represent MoW, they look brill.

They look like unshaven Klingons. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just the association I have in my mind of those models. How odd.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:They look like unshaven Klingons. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just the association I have in my mind of those models. How odd.

What....is......seen........ARGHHHHH!

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:They look like unshaven Klingons. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just the association I have in my mind of those models. How odd.

Or The Wolfman.

"There are no wolves on Fenris", or rather there were no wolves on Fenris until the Space Wolves showed up so the book "Prospero Burns" implies.

I am no Space Marine expert, but in Deathwatch, there is this interesting info (in a short slightly imprecise version):

During initiation on planet Fenris, future Space Wolves are first given the Canix Helix, part of the transformation into a Space Wolf. They are then left in the forest where they have to fight back their way to the Chapter house, proving that the transformation is stable. Some die in fights, some transform into Wolfen because of incompatibility of the Canix Helix. Those that prove compatible and return alive, get the rest of the Space Wolf treatment. There are a lot of Wolfen on Fenris.

BTW, Puppet's War also does nice "Wolfen" head conversion bitz (and wolf helmets):
http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=7

Ugly Green Trog wrote:Hmm I've read the space wolf omnibus several times and it deals with the wulfen issue quite comprehensively. It makes no mention that a warrior who becomes wolf bitten (this is how they refer to the condition sometimes they dont actually get bitten by a wolf) actually transforming into a wolf, they tend to turn slowly at first getting hairier more aggressive, their eyes turn yellow, then they gain claws and eventually go through the classic hollywood werewolf morph, once transformed they have varying degrees of control, some go mad and turn on their brothers (and anyone else in the vicinity) others can stay in control depending on their experience in dealing with the beast and their own willpower.

If interested in space wolves I definately recommend the space wolf omnibuses.

Read A Thousand Sons followed by Prospero Burns...

Colep715 wrote:"There are no wolves on Fenris", or rather there were no wolves on Fenris until the Space Wolves showed up so the book "Prospero Burns" implies.

Space Wolves all have Yellow eyes... and yes, some are hinted at becoming 'wolves'... one of the main characters who 'sleeps on red snow' is claimed to have become one of the wolves who roams around the Fang.

I'm sure a SW expert can give me an answer to this: How is it that these guys aren't considered mutants by the Inquisition?

If the geneseed is okay for the Emperor, it is okay for the Inquisition

asimo77 wrote:I'm sure a SW expert can give me an answer to this: How is it that these guys aren't considered mutants by the Inquisition?

Pretty much what Kroothawk said, it's the same reason the Navigators are still around

asimo77 wrote:I'm sure a SW expert can give me an answer to this: How is it that these guys aren't considered mutants by the Inquisition?

Same way the blood angels are considered mutants, the dark angels arent considred traitors for the actions of luther, nearly every chapter has it's own secrets, and very few outside of the Space Wolves chapter know about it, and they intend to keep it that way.

winnertakesall wrote:

asimo77 wrote:I'm sure a SW expert can give me an answer to this: How is it that these guys aren't considered mutants by the Inquisition?

Same way the blood angels are considered mutants, the dark angels arent considred traitors for the actions of luther, nearly every chapter has it's own secrets, and very few outside of the Space Wolves chapter know about it, and they intend to keep it that way.

It's also likely that the SW have killed Inquisitors who have gone too far to reveal this secret

Agreed, SW distrust outsiders, and I really doubt that anyone that they didn't really trust and know well would ever be allowed near The Fang, not even on Fenris. SW have the right attitude, and understand that not all of the things holding back the IoM is xenos and heretics, is those unwilling to move forward and undermine for personal gain.

There is fluff that supports some inquisitorial knowledge of the Wulfen(especially during/after the Eye of terror campaign, or Abbadon's 13th black crusade; where the SW 13th co showed up filding Wulfen marines in numbers, this is where the above pictured models came from); there is also fluff that the inquisition finds the SW Gene-seed tithes slightly suspect as not SW 1 gene-seed "bit" has ever shown any signs of corruption or mutation.

Kommissar Kel wrote:There is fluff that supports some inquisitorial knowledge of the Wulfen(especially during/after the Eye of terror campaign, or Abbadon's 13th black crusade; where the SW 13th co showed up filding Wulfen marines in numbers, this is where the above pictured models came from); there is also fluff that the inquisition finds the SW Gene-seed tithes slightly suspect as not SW 1 gene-seed "bit" has ever shown any signs of corruption or mutation.

The SW aren't exactly known for co-operating with the Inquisition... or many Imperial authorities for that matter... actually they are well known for shooting at them more than anything.

Kroothawk wrote:If the geneseed is okay for the Emperor, it is okay for the Inquisition

+1, and the fact that most who know do not live in the 40k universe, but are BL readers...

It's knowledge that actual 'in-universe' citizens would not have readily available... even the ][

purplefood wrote:

Kommissar Kel wrote:There is fluff that supports some inquisitorial knowledge of the Wulfen(especially during/after the Eye of terror campaign, or Abbadon's 13th black crusade; where the SW 13th co showed up filding Wulfen marines in numbers, this is where the above pictured models came from); there is also fluff that the inquisition finds the SW Gene-seed tithes slightly suspect as not SW 1 gene-seed "bit" has ever shown any signs of corruption or mutation.

The SW aren't exactly known for co-operating with the Inquisition... or many Imperial authorities for that matter... actually they are well known for shooting at them more than anything.

All's quite one evening in the fang when suddenly the Fortress-Monastery's Orbital defense lasers start letting out salvo after salvo, prompting Logan Grimnar to rush from his billet in order to get a tactical update from the commander of the watch.

"What is going on?" Grimnar groggily growls*

"Nothing much Great Wolf, we are just performing some target practice" Reply's the Watch Commander.

Grimnar looks at the display screen and lets out a hearty laugh; "I see an inquisitor's ship has wandered into our orbit," Grimnar then slaps the watch-commander on the back, "good show, good show: continue!"


*(alliteration FTW!)

Ok, since I've seen this topic now...

Are Wulfen what is refered to in one of the Heresy books when the "...there are no Wolves on Fenris." comment is made by one of the Space Wolves? This confused me no end when I was reading the book.

Not familiar with the Space Wolves enough to know.

Fenrisian Wolves are not Canis lupus. That is very likely what that statement meant.

Wulfen are Failed SW Aspirants and former full SW battle brothers that have succumbed to the ravages of the Canis Helix. The Wulfen are very similar to the Classic Hollywood "wolfman" and are savage predators without much in the way of higher brain function(they hunt and eat, and have some basic pack-tactics; but are at least difficult if not nearly impossible to communicate with, and forgo everything else other than to get stuck-in and kill with their Bare hands and teeth).

From my understanding of the "There are no wolves on Fenris" line, there is no evidence of failed Space Wolves initiates from turning into wolves. They do turn into Wulfen because they cannot contain the beast that is released when they drink from the Canis Helix cup.

In "The Thousand Sons" book, Magnus the Red looks into the DNA/heredity of a wolf that lopes along side of him in the first few chapters. Magnus can see that the creature that runs along side him could have been considered a wolf simply because it descended from the first wolves that were brought to Fenris before the Age of Darkness. What he sees now is a species of "wolf" that was forced to rapidly evolve and change because of the extremely harsh conditions of Fenris. One of his legion says. "There are no wolves on Fenris," and Magnus agrees. The four-legged creatures that live on Fenris in the years 30,000 and 40,000 are no longer wolves because their living conditions have forced them to evolve and become something different entirely.

In "Prospero Burns", the main character Hawser shares a dream with the dying Rune Priest Longfang. In his dream he can see the Fenrisian landscape and a large, elk-like creature that begins to charge him. As he flees, he looks back to see another smaller creature leaping to take down the elk-thing. This creature is feral and appears to be a furry man-beast. In his shared dream with Longfang, Hawser learns about the fate of those who do not pass the Trial of the Canis Helix, the Wulfen Cursed. To my knowledge, there is no evidence of failed aspirants further mutating into Fenrisian wolves or Thunderwolves or anything. They simply roam the wilderness around The Fang.

The Audio book, "Thunder from Fenris" also addresses the Wulfen Curse. In this tale, a squad of Thunderwolf Riders is tasked with tracking down a squad member that has gone Wulfen and killed on of his own pack members and two Thunderwolves. The main trio left keep following the Wulfen's trail and they eventually see that the Wulfen was still trying to fight the enemies of the Imperium despite having turned into a feral killing machine. There are also suggestions that the Wulfen in this book tries to hide his old pack member's body out of shame for not controlling his inner beast.

Ragnar also encounters the 13th Company in the final book the the Space Wolves Omnibus. Here the Wulfen are indeed feral, but they are much more in control of their bloodlust compared to other Wulfen because all of the 13th Company has been forced to cope with heightened aggression from their inner beasts. Even Ragnar has flashes of him tearing out the throat of someone he was sworn to protect because of the stresses of the warp. His eyes turn yellow after being stuck with the 13th in the warp, but luckily the Wolf Priest that accompany him are able to keep the Wulfen Curse in check for Ragnar and the other new Space Wolves trapped with the 13th Company.