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Got a friend who is looking for a competitive wolf list. I came up with this as a suggestion, please critique.

HQ

Rune Priest w/ Chooser: 110
(Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane)

Rune Priest: 100
(Living Lightning, Temptest's Wrath)

Rune Priest w/ WTT: 105
(Living Lightning, JoWW)

Troops

5x Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Las-Plas Razorback: 145
5x Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Las-Plas Razorback: 145
5x Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Las-Plas Razorback: 145
5x Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Las-Plas Razorback: 145
5x Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Las-Plas Razorback: 145


Heavy Support

6x Long Fangs, 5 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 215
5x Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 190
5x Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 190

Elites

5 Wolf Guard, 5 Powerfists, 5 Combimeltas: 215




Wolf Guard go one each in the Grey Hunter squads and the Rune Priests hang out casting LL with the Long Fangs. If there's an issue with psychic shenanegans (Eldar, dual lash, whatever), then the Rune Priests go with 3 of the GH squads for the hood bubble and the WG form their own squad, hijacking one of the Long Fangs' Razorbacks. The LF Razorbacks are there to add to saturation and to get them into position if you roll up DoW.

8 Razorbacks (8 Lascannons, 8 TL-Plasmaguns)
3 Rune Priests w/ LL (3-21 S7 shots per turn)
16 Missile Launchers going at 6 different targets. Dual melta in the squads for up close and personal beatdowns.

Id drop all the wolf guard. Just put in another rune priest. or a dread.

italiaplaya wrote:Id drop all the wolf guard. Just put in another rune priest. or a dread.

OK...a RP to hang out with who? A dread outfitted to do what?

NuggzTheNinja wrote:

italiaplaya wrote:Id drop all the wolf guard. Just put in another rune priest. or a dread.

OK...a RP to hang out with who? A dread outfitted to do what?

Rune priest with jaws and whatever you want. Or dread with twin lascannon. 6 man squads with a powerfist are pretty useless. Most of the time they'll all get killed before the powerfist gets a chance to swing.

Drop the Wolf Guard and replace them with 3 MM/HF Landspeeders. You have vehicles murdered, now you need help with hordes.

That's all I can say.

NuggzTheNinja wrote:
6x Long Fangs, 5 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 215
5x Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 190
5x Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 190

16 Missile Launchers going at 6 different targets.

Just for the record; 5+4+4 = 13 missiles. not 16.

Emp. wrote:

NuggzTheNinja wrote:
6x Long Fangs, 5 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 215
5x Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 190
5x Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers, Las-Plas Razorback: 190

16 Missile Launchers going at 6 different targets.

Just for the record; 5+4+4 = 13 missiles. not 16.

I'm sure he's aware, probably just a mistake, he wrote the correct number of missiles separate from the whole long fang squad after all... great constructive criticism though!

Back on topic, I like the list but as italiaplaya said above, drop the wolf guard. They are entirely unneeded and cost a lot of points.

I would also drop a few razorbacks and perhaps a rune priest to add in some dreads for counter assaulting. Equip them with lascannons and heavy flamers. Speeders are a good suggestion too, but I would personally take cyclone missile launchers along with flamers.

If you want to keep the Wolf Guard, you have them kitted wrong for your army.

I would change them to this:
Wolf Guard (5)
-Terminator Armor
-2x Combi-Meltas (or Flamers depending on if you want more anti-horde or not)
-Razorback
215pts

Same points value, but now they have a 2+ save, 5+ Invulnerable save and are now mobile. Plus, that adds a TL Heavy Bolter to your mobile fire power as well.

You don't need them with your GH, as they shouldn't be seeing alot of CC anyways. And as previously stated they'll probably be dead before they can swing their Powerfist.


But this is only if you're set on keeping the WG, if you're going the Speeder route, just disregard.

Las/Plas razorspam- Yay!

You are doing it wrong, tho. Drop the WG- you really don't need them. Grab another GH sqad and pick up the missing ML LFs.

Also, you realize meltas with Razors is a waste, right? You aren't going to zoom up close with a RB- you want them for shooting. And you can't shoot LL out of RBs. If you want melta GH squads (with or without WG) grab rhinos. otherwise, just take the free flamer and point the points elsewhere. Like some speeders.

Another option is to take a suicide WG squad in a drop pod with combi meltas. Or grab some TWC for countercharge (forget the dread, low attacks means not very scary in CC).

It's pretty rare that you need jaws on a rune priest.

I would almost certainly take storm caller with a rune priest and throw him in a razorback for the 5+ save.

My only suggestion (though many might disagree) is to use T/L Lascannon razorbacks instead of Las/Plas.

The majority of the time, you will either be moving, or you will be out of range to use the plasma gun anyways, so might as well make the gun you can shoot better than have an extra, usually-useless, gun.


EDIT: Though my opinion is most likely influenced by the amount of suck I get out of my dice rolls.

Fexor wrote:If you want to keep the Wolf Guard, you have them kitted wrong for your army.

I would change them to this:
Wolf Guard (5)
-Terminator Armor
-2x Combi-Meltas (or Flamers depending on if you want more anti-horde or not)
-Razorback
215pts

Same points value, but now they have a 2+ save, 5+ Invulnerable save and are now mobile. Plus, that adds a TL Heavy Bolter to your mobile fire power as well.

You don't need them with your GH, as they shouldn't be seeing alot of CC anyways. And as previously stated they'll probably be dead before they can swing their Powerfist.

But this is only if you're set on keeping the WG, if you're going the Speeder route, just disregard.

What?? Please don't give out wrong advice. The squad you provided is completely terrible and has no place in ANY list. While I might agree that in a gunline army they aren't needed, your suggesting to take even worse upgrades.

Do you even play space wolves? Units with terminator armor can't ride inside a razorback... so no they're not mobile.