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So the Inquisitors thread earlier mentioned that there is an option to take all 3 types of Inquisitors in the GK codex. And of course there is the Jokaero Weaponsmith as a henchmen, can anyone tell me what's all in the codex that details Ordos Xenos? Do Xenos Inquisitors have special rules and equiptment? are there any more unit types or choices Ordos Xenos related? etc.

Oh and are there Chaplains in the Grey Knights dex now? I know they have them in fluff.

Given that the Librarian made it into the range, but not the chaplain, I'm guessing Chaplains didnt make the cut.

Actually did a bit of searching and aparently a Brother-Champion is like a mix between a Chaplain and a Champion and has Litagies. I've always liked GK Chaplains, people have made some pretty nifty conversions of them. I wonder what wargear BrotherUchampions can take

Champions aren't too good, in my opinion. They have some nifty special rules, but they aren't actually very useful. And they only have one wound.

All the non special character inquisitors are the same ruleswise but they have access to different equipment. Xeno can get conversion beamers, a hand weapon that wounds on 2+ (but isn't power) and rad grenades (enemy units assaulting or being assaulted are -1T first round of combat). There's one or two things other than that but those are the ones that stick out in my mind.

From more of a fluff perspective, why are chaplains even necessary in the GKs? These are people that fight daemons and other warp-based nasties, thus are pretty much as pure to the creed as purists get (one of the requirements of admission), so a priest being there to inspire them with the imperial creed seems a bit redundant?

Kind of like the priest of a quiet country village church giving a sermon to the pope on how to be more catholic...?

Leigen_Zero wrote:From more of a fluff perspective, why are chaplains even necessary in the GKs? These are people that fight daemons and other warp-based nasties, thus are pretty much as pure to the creed as purists get (one of the requirements of admission), so a priest being there to inspire them with the imperial creed seems a bit redundant?

Kind of like the priest of a quiet country village church giving a sermon to the pope on how to be more catholic...?

Regarding your comparison, you have to remember that the Grey Knight Chaplains are a part of the Chapter too. A more correct comparison would be the Pope giving a sermon to Cardinals. The Chaplains are a pretty big deal, as they're the ones who make sure that they STAY pure. Someone has to teach new recruits the ways of the Chapter. In the GK Omnibus (despite some of the shortcomings of the plot) you really get a feeling of how hard it actually is for Grey Knights to muster the willpower to remain pure. The Chaplains of the Grey Knights knows more than any living servant of the Emperor how to keep the taint of Chaos out of the hearts of others, and they've obviously done their job.

Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:Actually did a bit of searching and apparently a Brother-Champion is like a mix between a Chaplain and a Champion and has Litagies. I've always liked GK Chaplains, people have made some pretty nifty conversions of them. I wonder what wargear Brother-champions can take

THEY FETHING STOLE MY BROTHER-REDEMPTOR IDEA FROM MY DARK ANGELS UNIQUE UNIT!

Anyways...I'm still not really surprised that they put the Ordo Xenos Inquisitor in, but am slightly surprised they didn't put in Deathwatch.

The Grey Knights may be the purest Space Marine chapter but that dosen't mean that they don't need chaplains to administer to the faith of the marines, and chaplains more often then not carry a chapters history with them. They are the ones who teach the Grey Knights the prayers they use in battle as well as educate them on daemons fought in the past. They also act as custodians of the Tombs on Titan

I remember reading, that Grey Knights have Chaplains, bur because every Grey Knight is very much specialised, so are the chaplains and they focus entirely on the sanity and souls of their brothers and dont fight in battles but remain at the chapter base.

Where might I have read this, perhaps the old Index Astartes Grey Knights?

No chappy's in the GK dex, just the Brothahood Champion

Ordo Xenos inquisitor got some nifty options

Dark Scipio wrote:I remember reading, that Grey Knights have Chaplains, bur because every Grey Knight is very much specialised, so are the chaplains and they focus entirely on the sanity and souls of their brothers and dont fight in battles but remain at the chapter base.

Where might I have read this, perhaps the old Index Astartes Grey Knights?

That dosen't make sense for a couple reasons.

1 All chaplains focus on the purity of their brothers souls but they are still warriors, there woulden't be any reason to make them into super human killing machines if they wern't going to fight

2. A Grey Knights soul is at the most risk when in combat against daemons, granted no Grey Knight has ever turned to chaos and none probably ever will but if a GK chaplains sole focus was the purity of the Grey Knights then he would be in battle with them against daemons who pose the most threat to the GK purity.

It makes sense.

Grey Knights are very much specialists, a chaplain might focus more on the spiurtual matters and the caring of the souls of his brothers and might lack the Deamon fighting skills of his brothers.
I think you think more about motivation (that could be done in battle) and less about looking for the purity of the souls of your brothers. Corruption does not work like a Laser, it slowly devours its victim, not in the midst of a battle.

Dark Scipio wrote:It makes sense.

Grey Knights are very much specialists, a chaplain might focus more on the spiurtual matters and the caring of the souls of his brothers and might lack the Deamon fighting skills of his brothers.

Dude, Chaplains are as much marines as any other member of their chapter, if not more. The notion that Grey Knight Chaplains wouldn't have the "skills" of their brethren is preposterous.

Dark Scipio wrote:It makes sense.

Grey Knights are very much specialists, a chaplain might focus more on the spiurtual matters and the caring of the souls of his brothers and might lack the Deamon fighting skills of his brothers.
I think you think more about motivation (that could be done in battle) and less about looking for the purity of the souls of your brothers. Corruption does not work like a Laser, it slowly devours its victim, not in the midst of a battle.

Purity is the greatest weapon, well purity and rightoeus hatred are the greatest weapons , well purity, rightoeus hatred and psych attuned weaponry are the greatest weapons against deamons, Grey Knight chaplains would kick arse.

Yep, as others have said, they have the Brotherhood Champ, who has a rule that's identical to Litanies of Hate. Only one wound though :/

Only one wound and his own offensive capabilities are extremely limited. If you could force your opponent to attack him exclusively in close combat, he'd be awesome, but his cool defensive ability is wasted since no one would attack him when he uses that stance. His offensive stances aren't very good either.

Great as a support unit though. Stick him in something less squishy and reroll till the cows come home.

Can you give him Terminator armor and other wargear or is it pretty much a Emperors Champion with special rules.

He has artificer armour and an iron halo.

Basically, at the beginning of the assault phase, you pick one of three stances, and that determines how many attacks he gets. One stance makes it so that he gets to reroll all failed saves, one stance gives him an amount of attacks equal to the amount of enemies he's in base contact with, and one attack gives him D3 attacks but can only be used against independant characters and monsterous creatures.

All in all, largely unimpressive.

So the easy answer would have been no he dosen't have alternative wargear options

Oh? Wargear? Not really. He can take psybolt ammo, Empyrean Brain Mines (IMO, not that good), and Digital Weapons (which are useless for the Champion since he already rerolls to wound).