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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries



Corpus Christi, TX

Pretty much what the subject line says. I'm thinking not, based on the text on p. 49 of Warmachine Prime that defines an additional attack, but if I'm wrong I'd like to know.
   
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Bane Knight





Netherlands

as far as I know: No it can not. It also can't be a charge attack. Only *attacks can be chargeattacks (like thresher)

 
   
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Druid Warder





nope you sacrifice your initial attacks to make one power attack

however you can make your power attack then have your additional attacks

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and this is crazy,
but I'm a demon,
possess you, maybe?
 
   
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Dakka Veteran





Canada

I'm pretty sure you can't use power attacks to substituted for a charge attack. I don't have the rule book on my, but I at believe it reads that you can only use an initial attack or a special attack linked to a weapon your using or that specifically states you can use it instead.
   
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Dakka Veteran




CT

Some examples of this would be a Khador Devestator's rain of death special attack, that states it may be made in place of a charge attack. Also, I believe you simply choose a melee weapon to be the weapon you use on a charge, then you work out the attack. If it has any special effects, they still work with a charge, as a charge is simply an initial attack that gets boosted. Dervishes would be a good example as they can combo strike on the charge (I think).

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KingKodo wrote:Some examples of this would be a Khador Devestator's rain of death special attack, that states it may be made in place of a charge attack. Also, I believe you simply choose a melee weapon to be the weapon you use on a charge, then you work out the attack. If it has any special effects, they still work with a charge, as a charge is simply an initial attack that gets boosted. Dervishes would be a good example as they can combo strike on the charge (I think).

The former example is because the Rain of Death is not on a weapon system, and thus could not normally be used as a charge attack. Combo Strike, however, is on the Dervish's swords, so can thus be used on a charge attack. Same goes for any * attack on a weapon.

As for the original question, you can't use them in place of an additional attack, as the only way to make a power attack (outside of special rules like Smash and Grab) is to do so in place of your initial attacks. Power attacks are a subset of * attacks, so you could normally make them as a charge attack, but the text for Power Attacks on pg 51 forbids it.
   
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Widowmaker






Ok so this topic brings a up a Question. I have been told that Charging with a MoW Demo Co. if you charge with back swing you don't get the second attack? is this true? because i have been under the assumption that you only got the one attacka nd the other was discarded. being as how the Back Swing *Attack is on the Ice Maul not the MoW. i generally charge with IceBreaker because hey, 4 Damage dice to the face hurts anything. with battlelust, they hurt more xD. but yes if i charge with Backswing do i get the second attack? if i do i imagine it would not be boosted? but seeing as how its a *attack on the weapon it would still get the charge benefits? if so that would make my charge tactics change ALOT lol.


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Scouting Gnoblar Trapper




Vilnius, Lithuania

What? Of course you can use Back Swing on charge, there's no reason why you couldn't. It's special attack on melee weapon so it's a special melee attack and special melee attacks can be used on charge. Though since only first attack ofter charge movement is charge attack the second one won't have boosted damage.

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Canada

Side note:Last I checked you have to declare both targets when you use backswing before making attack rolls.
   
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Wraith





Nope. This has been ruled on by the infernals on the PP boards.

http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?69163-backswing-official-ruling
   
 
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