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Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Wolf Claw, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, Meltabombs, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Warrior Born)
Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, 2x Fenrisian Wolves)
Rune Priest (Chooser, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane)
Rune Priest (Murderous Hurricane, Tempest's Wrath)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
2 Thunderwolves (2x Storm Shields, Thunder Hammer, Meltabomb)
2 Thunderwolves (2x Storm Shields, Thunder Hammer, Meltabomb)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)

2000pts

Need helpp!

Much appreciated.

Anything...

noahb91 wrote:9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)

Trim down to 6 GHs each and slap a Las/Plas gun on each rhino and call it RazorSpam.

noahb91 wrote:2 Thunderwolves (2x Storm Shields, Thunder Hammer, Meltabomb)
2 Thunderwolves (2x Storm Shields, Thunder Hammer, Meltabomb)

You're not exploiting Wound Allocation Shenanigans. Try to equip each one with a different piece of wargear. Prolly one at least with a Frost Wep or Lightning Claws.
? Sure, but 'tis codex legal and after joining the RTT scene, I'm not sure what *is* cheese any more.

I mean, I ran dual lash CSM (sorcerer and DP) and got full Comp from every opponent in the last RTT. I should try to check the previous RTTs too.

Brothererekose wrote:

noahb91 wrote:9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)

Trim down to 6 GHs each and slap a Las/Plas gun on each rhino and call it RazorSpam.

He would need to add an additional squad+razorback to make this more feasible.

His TWC could already be doing that if he kitted them out like this:
TWC + SS + Thunder Hammer
TWC + SS + Thunder Hammer + Melta Bomb

For both FA selections, this would satisfy the wound allocation shenanigans.

Don't go Razorspam with this list. I'm not big on Thunderwolves without decent Grey Hunter support, and I don't consider 5-6 Grey Hunters in a Razorback to be "support", especially not in combat. Additionally, as pointed out above, the Thunderwolves do in fact have different Wargear.

That said, I think you could mash the two Thunderwolf packs together, drop one Rune Priest and use the extra points to take Wolf Guard Pack Leaders for the Grey Hunters.

Additionally, replace Saga of the Warrior Born with Saga of the Bear so you have at least one model that can absorb S10 hits, and give the other Wolf Lord Saga of Majesty so you can re-roll morale tests. It really sucks to have an expensive unit like Thunderwolves run away and get chased off the board by a cheap unit like a Rhino or something, so it's well worth the 15 points to throw Majesty on a second Wolf Lord.

Alright. Thank you.
That's the kinda input I was looking for. Ha.

Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Wolf Claw, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, Meltabombs, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Bear)
Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Magesty)
Rune Priest (Chooser, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane)
3 Wolf Guard (2x Powerfist, Combi-Melta)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
4 Thunderwolves (4x Storm Shields, 2x Thunder Hammer, 2x Meltabombs)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)

That puts me at like 1999

Soo. Something like this?

noahb91 wrote:Alright. Thank you.
That's the kinda input I was looking for. Ha.

Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Wolf Claw, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, Meltabombs, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Bear)
Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Magesty)
Rune Priest (Chooser, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane)
3 Wolf Guard (2x Powerfist, Combi-Melta)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
4 Thunderwolves (4x Storm Shields, 2x Thunder Hammer, 2x Meltabombs)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)

That puts me at like 1999

Soo. Something like this?

Not exactly. You cannot have 2x Thunder Hammers in a single pack of Thunderwolves. Drop two of the Storm Shields, one of the Thunder Hammers and one of the Meltabombs to make the pack 295 points, and use the extra to make sure all of the Wolf Guard have a Power Fist and Combi-Melta. Otherwise, that list looks fine.

Ah. My bad. Didn't even cross my mind. Alright.

Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Wolf Claw, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, Meltabombs, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Bear)
Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Magesty)
Rune Priest (Chooser, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane)
3 Wolf Guard (3x Powerfist, 3x Combi-Melta)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino)
4 Thunderwolves (2x Storm Shields,Thunder Hammer, Meltabombs)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)

That leaves me with like 65 points to play around with.

Mark of the Wulfen on all of the Grey Hunter packs.....then something for 20 points?

Sounds good.

I could throw runic armor on somebody, Say the Rune Priest.

Hmm. How about that?

And do you really think the one big squad of wolves will do better then two separate smaller ones, I thought maybe the two smaller so if they were shot at. The shots would have to be split up. And they could also get more done. My last battle, My Thunderhammer Lord and 2 wolves took out, A full squad of striking scorpions, then the two Thunderwolves died off against a Wrath Lord. The Wolf Lord then finished off the Wrath Lord. Then took out another Wrath Lord. Then A full squad of Pathfinders. And then Eldrad. Loving the Wolf Lords.

Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Wolf Claw, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, Meltabombs, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Bear)
Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Magesty)
Rune Priest (Runic Armor, Chooser, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane)
3 Wolf Guard (3x Powerfist, 3x Combi-Melta)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, MotW, Rhino)
9 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, MotW, Rhino)
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, MotW, Rhino)
4 Thunderwolves (2x Storm Shields,Thunder Hammer, Meltabombs)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)
5 Long Fangs (4x Missile Launchers)

But hows this?

There are merits to both. I prefer larger packs where possible (at least 4 Thunderwolves, including any attached characters) because it's less likely your opponent will be able to stack enough wounds to completely wipe out your Wolf Lords bodyguard and hit him with something S10. On the other hand, it reduces target saturation and gives your opponent a big Death Star to shoot at.

In this case, I think the larger pack is better. The Wolf Lords have Fenrisian Wolves that can absorb incoming S10 shots, and the whole unit has Majesty so they aren't likely to run or be pinned. When assaulting the Wolf Lords can break off from the pack to hit different targets, and if your opponent lacks S10 shots they can do that anyway to break up enemy fire.

Personally I like the list as you have it now, and I would playtest it in a few games to see how you do. I run a similar list, but with only one Wolf Lord, a second Rune Priest, and two Razorback packs instead of the third large pack of Grey Hunters. I also give all of my Long Fangs Razorbacks. For me, the list has worked very well against all types of targets.

Here is what I run:

Wolf Lord (Thunderwolf, Claw, Shield, Necklace, Meltabombs, 2x Fenrisian Wolves, Saga of the Bear) - 265
Rune Priest (Chooer, Meltabombs, LL, MH) - 115
Rune Priest (Meltabombs, MH, TW) - 105
4 Wolf Guard (2x Fist, 4x Combi-Melta) - 132
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Standard, Wulfen, Rhino) - 185
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Standard, Wulfen, Rhino) - 185
5 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Razorback w/ TL Las) - 155
5 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Razorback w/ TL Las) - 155
4 Thunderwolves (TH, 2x SS, Meltabombs) - 295
6 Long Fangs (5 Missiles, Razorback w/ TL Las) - 215
5 Long Fangs (4 Missiles, Razorback w/ TL Las) - 190
Total 1,999

It trades some melee punch on the main Death Star for some extra armored targets with Lascannons and another scoring unit. Either is viable, but I prefer this setup myself.

Hope that helps!

Thank you. I will playtest this list out soon. And also try out the changes that you have with yours and I will post the outcomes up here.

Thanks for the help! I really appreciate it. Can't wait to test it out.