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I've recently built a squad of Warriors (are they called squads?). The loadout I had for them was two hand weapons. I was hoping for plenty of attacks and thought that the Chaos Armor would be enough to keep them alive. However I've been told it would be better to have shields on them. So am I mistaken about the Chaos Armor? Is it not as resilient as I think it is? Would would be a problem for my Warriors' armor? BTW I plan to run blocks of 15-20 for my warriors.

Really it depends on the purpose you want them to serve.

If they're meant to be an anvil unit designed to hold enemies in place but not necessarily grind them down, then the most popular option is Sword + Board + MoT. That gives them a 3+ armor, 5+ parry and ensures they can take quite a beating.

If they're meant to be a hammer unit, designed to crush RnF enemies into powder, AHW + MoK = 4 attacks per model of S4 hurting. Some people prefer great weapons for the +2S, although that means giving up your I5 which just seems silly.

Chaos armor is a 4+ armor save, which is equal to heavy armor + shield on other troops. It's a decent enough safe against your average S3 enemy, although Chaos Warriors tend to see a good amount of high S attacks coming their way.



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Keeping in mind that supporting infantry only get 1 attack per model (regardless of load out) many people go with Halberds + MoK for their hammer units. You get one less attack per front rank, but all attacks (including your supporting attacks) are done at +1 S and keep your I5. It's a deadly option.

Yea, Streamdragon has about the right of it.

-Halberds w/ Mok are really good to hack apart armored and tough enemies (3 attacks front rank + 1 support for 4 Str5 attacks at I 5 per man in the front rank). Also, putting shields on them is nice; even if they don't get to use them in melee they can expect a LOT of shooting, and things people point at them will often drop a 4+ save to 6+ or remove it, so the extra pip of armor can save a few 16+ point models.

-Sword & board w/ MoT are just dead hard. 3+/5++ is slowed hard to drop in melee, and you still get 2+1 supporting attacks at Str4 I5 per man.

-AHW w/ MoK: not so much. You get 4+1 attacks per man, which is only a 25% increase in attacks vs. a 16% better chance to wound and 16% better chance to go through armor on ALL your attacks with the halberds. It just doesn't really justify itself for the same price. Looks pretty neat though.

-Great weapons w/ Mok: Yay Str 6! Boo I1. Boo paying extra points for +1 Str and -4 I vs Halberds. I just don't see the point of great weapons on WoC. Marauders, oh yes, but not WoC. It seems to me that most big things have 5-6 T with no/little armor (most monsters seem to be naked or have a 4+ save) and low I compared to WoC. So you gain a 16% better chance to wound and 16% to go through armor they probably don't have at the cost of swinging after the big thing gets a chance to mash you and T-stomp you, and pay 1 point per model for the privilege? Not so fun.

Flails would be awesome though...

I personally run 18 WoC with halberds, shields and Flaming Banner and sometimes MoK, with piles of marauders. GW marauders with MoK are really mean for their points, though WoC are meaner and more survivable.

Also, they are called "units" for reference

Actually GWs are even worse than I1, they're the slowest.

'units' THATS the word I was looking for... thanks... I just totally blanked on what to call them haha

Good call Hoverboy. I keep conflating Always Strikes Last with power fists in 40k :( Doesn't seem like a big deal, until some dead slow I 1 thing smacks you down before you get to swing (or usually more importantly, thunder stomp!)

Like say a bunch of spearsaurus.

20 Warriors with MoK Halberds/shields and flaming banner
this is your hammer

20 warriors MoT handweapon/shields +1 command banner
this is your anvil

50 Marauders with MoK and great weapons (horde formation)
this is cheap and scary and can kill a lot and can stay around a while

good solid start to any WoC army

As above, but I put the AP on the halberds, and the Flaming on a smaller unit of great weapon warriors (who are the monster hunters).

-Matt

Thanks for all the suggestions folks... there's ton I still don't know about this current edition. I think I need to read a little bit more before I start gluing crap together... anyone want any warriors with extra hand weapons?

Just mix them up with your other units. WHFB doesn't have to be 100% WYSIWYG like 40k, generally just 50-75% so for units, so if you mix in some with say a majority halberd block or so you should be fine. People also use unit filler etc., so don't worry about using them too much. Just toss them into the rear ranks and put the halberd/sword and board guys up front and call it done.