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Hey Peeps

I need your advice. Whilest playing GTA The lost and the Damned, the idea came to me that it would be cool to field a squad of IG Bikers. I remember back in the day you used to be able to do this? I think?....anyway, reading the rules for IG Rough Riders, i have to say, horses? in the 41st Millenium? really?

Anyway, would you guys see any issue with modelling my Rough Riders on bikes and using them as "counts as"? I can't find a reason in the Codex that would sneer at the idea, other than the fluff is always about Barbarians in space riding their wild stallions...crap!.....

Anyway, let me know what you think

Cheers

I would actually be happy if you did that, i hate the horses in space thing i think its stupid. I mean if they were robot horses thn id be a bit more ok with it. Question what bikes would you use for them?

I don't see anything wrong with it, it's certainly been done many times before. I personally like the anachronistic horses in space (the quote in the IG codex on the page describing rough riders says it all for me) and thus find the preponderance of rough riders on bikes and whatnot a bit tiresome, but that's just personal taste. If you like guardsmen on bikes with lances then I say go for it.

It's a fairly common conversion. Another popular one is using warhammer fantasy cold ones as Xeno mounts. I made some robohorses out of Tomb King skeletal horses but my army concept has moved on since then.

robot horses? lolwhut

tbh I like a lot of the lo-tech stuff that appears in 40K. I mean stomping around in a buff dreadnaught blasting chaos space marines in a post apocalyptic wasteland is one thing but I think it's far more interesting having skirmishes with a few imperial guard squads against poorly-armed cultists. I mean, it's a big universe, and anything conceivable can happen. There are barbarian worlds and backwater planets where people have nothing more than crossbows. Hell, the warhammer world could exist within the 40K universe as far as we know, though I'm absolutely sure I'm not the first person to suggest that possibility.

Long story short, I think there is a place in the grimdark for anything, including guys on horses.

Basically anything that can be mounted on a cavalry base should be enough. it is a bit of a mood backlash when you ahve all sorts of high-tech stuff and then you suddenly have...a bunch of mongols riding on horses.

NWansbutter wrote:I don't see anything wrong with it, it's certainly been done many times before. I personally like the anachronistic horses in space...

YES. That's the word I was looking for, the anachronistic tones of the 40K universe is what gives it it's character. There are laser guns, teleportation, faster-than-light spaceships but people still worship a vegetable sitting on a throne as a living god and pray over engines.

Raxmei wrote:It's a fairly common conversion. Another popular one is using warhammer fantasy cold ones as Xeno mounts.

yeah, my mate is doing that exact squad atm.

Think there was a similar thread about this not too long ago.

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A guardsmen's life is short and usually voilent, so I like my soldiers to head towards that destination with style. So while thinking about how to create my own blend of roughriders, minus a horse, I came to a conclusion.

Dirt Bikes

I haven't had a chance to order any yet, so I don't know if they scale right though.

I was going to simply convert Space Marine Scout Bikes?!? Sweet and simple.

I've already used the legs and what not from Scouts for my pimped up Veterans.....so the conversion will not be out of place.

For those that think that bikes are boring....yeah, I can see where you're coming from, but I agree with MechaEmperor7000 about the "mood backlash"

In the Codex they talk about how Horses are better than machines, becuase they don't need fuel and are not easily picked up on sensors (?)......however, the flip side is that machines don't get tired, don't need feeding and warmth, and go as fast as all stop out! I know what I'd rather ride into battle with

In the novel "Gunheads", the scouts in the IG army had Hornet scout bikes. No idea how they looked though.

No issues would come if you played me. While I might be slightly bemused if you did classic Harley types with ape hangers, I'd personally like to see more "military" style (like the scout bikes you said you were using) Choppers are great, just not in the Army ya know?

I could see horses working really well if the theme of your army was hodge podge, dirty filthy and just scrambling to survive stealing whatever they could from the local area. Bikes would fit better with a more clean, new and fresh army and with the busted up one.

Just my .02

seejay wrote: Hell, the warhammer world could exist within the 40K universe as far as we know, though I'm absolutely sure I'm not the first person to suggest that possibility.

Because that's actually how warhammer 40k started back in rogue trader... There was a retro review of rogue trader somewhere 'round here... In the AD there's clear indication of the fact that, supposedly, WHFB is actually a particularly backwater planet in the 40k universe, which is why we had orks in space, empire in space, elfs in space and so on.

Now it's quite different ofc, but the roots are still clearly visible.

You could always have them ride lions.