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Steve Whitehead's Chaos Theory


so i was at GW website and saw this link

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=15900043a

So what do you think.

I love the design and the base on the history stuff.

you can argue they dont look like chaos, like they look like an alternative space marine race.

But maybe the original chaos space marines, and the original ideas for them, were suposed to have a more believable design, like less skulls and horns, and more methamorphis , and diferent types of weapons to show how the diferent powers of chaos affected each individual space marine. Like a diferent dimention where everything is diferent including good and evil.

Id say it does give it a more realistic look to the marines.

That guy aproaches Chaos as a liberation of burden, and aproaches chaos like a free will to do prety mutch anything.(kill/enslave/plunder)
So what do you think of it, i mean i like this idea of aproaching chaos as a deeper idea than just evil. Chaos is prety mutch doing anything you can think off.

Dividing Good and Evil implicates that one side must win in the end, considering chaos and the other powers of the galaxy as diferent colectives of races and interests adds so mutch.

Like what is evil for a guardsmen, or whats morality for a inquisitor..like... PURGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for posting that, those models are all things of beauty!

Interestingly, this was the original conception of Chaos, not so much 'evil', but freedom from control. The Imperium represented the antithesis of that. Anyone who has read Michael Moorcock (who I believe first coined the ideas) and the old Realms of Chaos/Slaves to Darkness books will know exactly what I mean. I also felt those models reminded me a lot of the old first edition chaos marines, who were truly 'chaotic'.

And despite the movement to 'evil' chaos, in some ways I find the older conception a lot more frightening. The grasp for tremendous power, revenge, territory, these are mortal concerns. But could you ever really know what would drive someone like in the picture below? What would make them choose that path? That for me is the more frightening aspect, that you could never truly know or understand without walking that path, and then presumably damning yourself in the process..

(Yes, I know its a fantasy picture, but it was the only one I had to hand and the boundaries between 40k and WFB were blurred back then )

Those models are super cool. He did a good job of making the marines look terrifying, rather than just pointy. I love spiky marines and all, there just seems to be something more fitting about bizarre, unique warriors emerging from the mystery that is the warp. Those models do an excellent job of conveying the horrors and wonders of the warp.

"Those who persue power will become a slave to it". That's pretty much my view on traitor marines, they wanted something and they sold their sanity to obtain it. Granted, when you live in the imperium, chaos doesn't look so bad anymore.

"Those who pursue power will become a slave to it".

Interestingly, this was the original conception of Chaos, not so much 'evil', but freedom from control.

Response:

Exactly i share this idea.

Chaos represents the lack of laws/order it represents complete and total freedom.

The same aplies to the laws of men and aliens.
This is why chaos is so tempting and terrific, as everything and everyone tend to chaos. It is natural for a human or eldar alike to seek power, to be free from every natural or self imposed law.

And this is impersonated into the eldar race itself, by the use of spirt stones by each eldar.
The most impressive theme in chaos history is the fact that the chaos gods are the personification of human and alien thinking, good and bad deeds, desires e.t.c........

Consider the warp as a complete and diferent Dimention, where everything we know as the natural course of life is twisted into unknown shapes and into a everchanging scenario.


some stuff ive found

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