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So a new batch of models comes out with a completely different style, do you:
Continue using the old unit, but add the new models to it
Continue using the old unit, while replacing them piecemeal
Replace the entire unit with the new models
Trawl ebay every time you want to increase the unit size

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Krazed Killa Kan






Newport, S Wales

So yesterday I was rummaging in the large amount of orks given to me by a friend for my 21st (nearly 2 years ago) and I come across a unit of old burna boyz, I've wanted to try them out in a list, and they are 3 burnas short. Now then, I have a box of the new plastic lootas/burnas sitting around, which I am itching to assemble. My problem is thus:

The old metal burna boyz and the new plastic ones are of a completely different style, and don't really match up that well (w.r.t scuplting style, weapon/fuel tank size etc) However both are very awesome sculpts. So, do I go out and buy more plastics and relegate the old burnas to the shelf of broken dreams? which would be a) wasteful and b) expensive. Or do I go on ebay and pick up some more old metal burnas to bulk out the unit (thus denying me the new plastics + also costing money).

A similar problem can be seen in the new stormboyz, compare the old ones (ork boyz with rokkits) to the new ones and you can see that they do not fit well together, despite having a unit of 15 new ones, I wouldn't mind being able to run 2 units, so shall I just man up and dettol the old ones, or give in to GW and spend another £30ish quid on a unit I already own 2 of?

So what do my fellow dakkites/dakkanauts/etc think/do?

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 Atma01 wrote:

And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!


Phototoxin wrote:Kids go in , they waste tonnes of money on marnus calgar and his landraider, the slaneshi-like GW revel at this lust and short term profit margin pleasure. Meanwhile father time and cunning lord tzeentch whisper 'our games are better AND cheaper' and then players leave for mantic and warmahordes.

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The ork burnas are not that different (I prefer the metal ones myself) and as long as you have a unifying paint scheme you can field them together.

Stormboyz... well the old ones can be converted to match the new style. The only major differences are the pose, the shoulderpads and the more gubbinz on the rokkit. That can be achieved on the old models and they can be mixed and matched.

Personally, I would just run one unit of the old stormboyz and one of the new ones. Unifying paint scheme goes a long way.

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Being orks, I'd make the argument that they SHOULD all look different! No mek makes anything the same way, so the more variety the better I say.

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I'd keep using the old unit, having some nostalgia and different looking units is always great and can really add to the feel and character of the army IMHO.

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I'm cheap and tend to put my armies together via what I can scrounge from Ebay and the swap shop, so I almost always end up with a mix of models by default.

Paint integrates things exceptionally well I think.

I'm not like them, but I can pretend.

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MegaDave wrote:Being orks, I'd make the argument that they SHOULD all look different! No mek makes anything the same way, so the more variety the better I say.


Agreed!

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I normally go by the best looking models but always include some from all the different generations of models I've been playing. An expert could probably figure out which generation of codex and rulebook I started each of my armies.

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Newcastle, OZ

I continue using the old ones, but new models become new units where possible.

If I need to use new models to fill spots in old units, then so be it.

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I have no problem mixing old and new. My preference would be that all Orks in the same unit are of the same style. If that's not practical, sometimes I will mix old and new in one unit and then unify the unit by painting everything in it with similar colors. (This works for me since I paint every unit a different color).

I think it is perfectly acceptable to have one unit of old and one unit of new of the same type in the same army (ie one unit of oldstyle Stormboyz and one unit of newstyle Stormboyz).

Some gamers are pickier - and there's nothing wrong with that, either. With some armies, it may seem weird (why is this unit of Space Marines only half as tall as the other?) but fortunately for Orks, the fluff describes different Orks as being different sizes based on the amount of fighting they've done.

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Leigen_Zero wrote:So yesterday I was rummaging in the large amount of orks given to me by a friend for my 21st (nearly 2 years ago) and I come across a unit of old burna boyz, I've wanted to try them out in a list, and they are 3 burnas short. Now then, I have a box of the new plastic lootas/burnas sitting around, which I am itching to assemble. My problem is thus:

The old metal burna boyz and the new plastic ones are of a completely different style, and don't really match up that well (w.r.t scuplting style, weapon/fuel tank size etc) However both are very awesome sculpts. So, do I go out and buy more plastics and relegate the old burnas to the shelf of broken dreams? which would be a) wasteful and b) expensive. Or do I go on ebay and pick up some more old metal burnas to bulk out the unit (thus denying me the new plastics + also costing money).

A similar problem can be seen in the new stormboyz, compare the old ones (ork boyz with rokkits) to the new ones and you can see that they do not fit well together, despite having a unit of 15 new ones, I wouldn't mind being able to run 2 units, so shall I just man up and dettol the old ones, or give in to GW and spend another £30ish quid on a unit I already own 2 of?

So what do my fellow dakkites/dakkanauts/etc think/do?


Don't give into the darkside, (specially when you already have what you need...)

Just revamp the unit with what you have. As to the tanks, you can always trade out a couple of IG heavy flamer tanks, if the mood so suited you. Mismatched orks with the same weapon give the unit thier character.



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I do a little from column A, a little from column D. I love Temrinator squads, but I'm perfectly happy to have a squad of the newest models marching alongside some guys from Space Hulk 1989 in a separate squad. Different makes is also a great way to tell squads apart.

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Mix and match, it adds to the diversity of the army.



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Mix and match. You'll see that a LOT with the new Grey Knights I bet, too.

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MegaDave wrote:Being orks, I'd make the argument that they SHOULD all look different! No mek makes anything the same way, so the more variety the better I say.


I concur. Maybe if they were SM or IG it would be different but with as random as the orks can be, I think it will compliment them.

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Krazed Killa Kan






Newport, S Wales

I think it has been decided, the metal burnas are to be immersed in dettol! right after I finish my painboy, warboss, looted wagon, skaven army etc etc

I think I'll be using the metal burnas, as to my next dilemma, at least the old tankbustas fit really well with the new ones!

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 Atma01 wrote:

And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!


Phototoxin wrote:Kids go in , they waste tonnes of money on marnus calgar and his landraider, the slaneshi-like GW revel at this lust and short term profit margin pleasure. Meanwhile father time and cunning lord tzeentch whisper 'our games are better AND cheaper' and then players leave for mantic and warmahordes.

daveNYC wrote:The Craftworld guys, who are such stick-in-the-muds that they manage to make the Ultramarines look like an Ibiza nightclub that spiked its Red Bull with LSD.
 
   
 
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