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Moustache-twirling Princeps





Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry

Hi again,

There's been a post about opening a new FLGS, and there was a question about how to help people decide the army they should start with.

Which lead me to wonder, has anyone ever graded army builds, in an easy-to-read manner?

I was thinking of things like comparing:
Ease of play against initial cost, for a starter army,
Close combat/ranged ability against survivability,
Other common type against something else.

It'd look something like this:

Difficult
..........|
..........|.......................... CSM
..........|
..........|.................................................................IG Mech
..........|
..........|
..........|.................................................Footdar
..........|
..........|
..........|
..........|
..........|
..........|
..........|............SM Tact
..........|
..........|
..........|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Easy
.............Cheap..................................................................Expensive

This one is obviously wrong, but you get the idea.

Has anyone done this already?
Does anyone have suggestions where armies should go on one of these graphs?
Is it worth the effort?

[Added dots. Spaces got chopped out]

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/28 10:13:29


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Hungry Little Ripper



United States

You should make one. I personally don't know how easy it is to play with each army, but I think this graph would help a lot of people decide.


 
   
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Moustache-twirling Princeps





Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry

I'd make one myself, but I've played a total of 1 game of 40k in the past 2 decades, and have all of 2 codexes.
Without first-hand knowledge, I'd be misleading people based on hearsay.

Time I got reading

[EDIT: My first reply sounded too grumpy, sorry. Rewritten]

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/28 13:41:48


6000 pts - Harlies: 1000 pts - 4000 pts - 1000 pts - 1000 pts DS:70+S+G++MB+IPw40k86/f+D++A++/cWD64R+T(T)DM+
IG/AM force nearly-finished pieces: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-38888-41159_Armies%20-%20Imperial%20Guard.html
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I'm not sure you could really make an understandable graph that's useful, there's too many variables, squads can be kitted out in many different ways not to mention terrain, local meta etc.

And of course when dealing with terms like 'ease of play' you're dealing more with opinion than cold hard fact. Although I think most people could agree Space Wolves are easier to play than Eldar, quantifying how much easier is a whole lot trickier.


   
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Screaming Shining Spear




NeoGliwice III

I think graph could get a bit confusing fast. Or you would need many of them.
The one showed here is not a good. Typically that kind of graphs represent two related variables. Much better are just plain bars. Also, if there are many variables isn't it easier to use 10 point scale?

Footdar:
Cost: 6
Difficulty of play: 4
Range capability: 6
Meele Capability: 4
Mobility: 2

Mech IG:
Cost: 7
Difficulty of play: 3
Range capability: 8
Meele Capability: 1
Mobility: 6

Duallash CSM:
Cost: 5
Difficulty of play: 6
Range capability: 6
Meele Capability: 6
Mobility: 4

(Points also not accurate)

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if you get one made let me know........wish i woulda had one before i started.


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Moustache-twirling Princeps





Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry

I'd best start with a list of army builds.

Is the best place to look the 40k Army Lists section?
Can anyone point me at a list, with summaries?

I'm asking a lot already, but it saves my mistakes needing to be fixed.

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Ah, cool - a Herzsprung-Russell diagram of 40K units.

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