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Do the wounds inflicted on the Termagants count towards resolution?

I'm inclined towards 'no', but I can see room for interpretation in "unsaved wounds inflicted by each side on their opponents".

I suspect wounds inflicted by exploding vehicles is an identical issue?

Tyranid Codex pg52, BRB pg39.

Edit: I'm happy that this question has been answered by Maelstrom808's cited precedent of when you blow up a Dreadnought in melee, and the Dreadnought's explosion kills three Scouts in the same melee, the three wounds are added to your score.

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You'd have to be a little more specific in regards to the scenario.

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Khârn is fighting two Tervigons and a brood of 10 Termagants. He inflicts 6W on a Tervigon, kllling it. The Termagants immediately take 3D6 S3 AP- hits, which happens to kill them all. The remaining Tervigon fails to hit or wound with all its attacks.

Has Khârn won the combat by 6, or by 16?

   
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lindsay40k wrote:Do the wounds inflicted on the Termagants count towards resolution?

I'm inclined towards 'no', but I can see room for interpretation in "unsaved wounds inflicted by each side on their opponents".

I suspect wounds inflicted by exploding vehicles is an identical issue?

Tyranid Codex pg52, BRB pg39.


I would say yes based on this from the BRB FAQ:

Q: In a multiple combat involving opposing vehicles and
non-vehicle units are wounds caused by the Destroyed –
Explodes! result on the Vehicle Damage table counted
towards the combat total? (p63)
A: Yes all wounds caused in this way will count. Unsaved
wounds caused to enemy models will count to your
combat total and unsaved wounds caused to friendly
models will count to your opponents combat total.

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I'm inclined to say yes he does win by 16. This sounds similar to a vehicle exploding near an assault and killing models. In that situation the casualties are counted toward combat resolution. I would treat this the same.

Edit: ninja'd!

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Kharn wins by 16.


its all one big combat so all wounds inflicted count regardless of the target.



this is why its a REALLY bad idea to double charge something with Gaunts and a big bug.


the Big Bugs are fearless so your opponent can direct his attacks at the easy to kill gaunts, rack up massive combat res, and force your big bug to take a bajillion No Retreat saves

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I am inclined to agree with Maelstrom808, unless more convincing evidence to the contrary can be presented.

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I was inclined towards 'no', not because the surviving Tervigon and the dead Termagants are separate units (I know the losing side takes Fearless wounds on every unit involved equal to the total score on both sides), but rather because of how I was inclined to read 'unsaved wounds inflicted by each side on their opponents'.

However, Mealstrom808 presents a solid precedent of 'your unit dying inflicting secondary damage on your own units in the same combat adds the wounds it inflicts to your opponent's combat score' that convinces me to change my position.

Which is good, because I don't have a Tervigon and my regular rival swarm has two :3

   
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you subtract the number of wounds each side caused to see who won and how many fearless wounds are taken.


if side A inflicts 8 wounds and side B inflicts 12 wounds,

Side B wins and Side A takes 4 No Retreat wounds

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