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Does anyone know if the space marine power gate of infinity allows you to use teleport homers or just locator beacons ?

Unless explicitly restricted to units arriving from reserves, anything influencing deep strikes will work for/against deepstriking by using the gate.

Jidmah wrote:Unless explicitly restricted to units arriving from reserves, anything influencing deep strikes will work for/against deepstriking by using the gate.

Not necessarily. Teleport homers only work for unit arriving by "Teleport," however you choose to define that term. GoI is not explicitly Teleporting, so there's an argument for teleport homers not working (in the same way that GK's "The Summoning" is also unaffected).

So the only thing actually teleporting are models in terminator armor arriving from reserves?

Jidmah wrote:Unless explicitly restricted to units arriving from reserves, anything influencing deep strikes will work for/against deepstriking by using the gate.

Except that teleport homers are explicitly only for terminators.

Jidmah wrote:So the only thing actually teleporting are models in terminator armor arriving from reserves?

Only for terminators, certainly. The confusion is whether "arriving" means "arriving from reserve" or "being placed using deep strike however".


NB: There are two types of beacons in C:SM -

Teleport Homers "if terminators wish to teleport onto the battlefield using deep strike"

Locator Beacon "if a unit wishes to arrive on the battlefield using deep strike"

The teleport homer states that terminators arriving from deep strike, the only way they can by using the armors special rule, don't scatter if withing 6 inches of the homer.

However, the GoI states the model is removed from the table and placed anywhere withing 24 inches per normal deep strike rules.

A model doing so in terminator armor can follow the rules for teleporting in from reserves, but GoI places you. So the rules conflict. You could argue either way honestly.

A locator beacon works just fine though for this.

Meh, could have figured out that one by not being too lazy to look into the codex.

You can't arrive on the battlefield if you're allready there, so neither works for the gate.

juraigamer wrote:The teleport homer states that terminators arriving from deep strike, the only way they can by using the armors special rule, don't scatter if withing 6 inches of the homer.

However, the GoI states the model is removed from the table and placed anywhere withing 24 inches per normal deep strike rules.

A model doing so in terminator armor can follow the rules for teleporting in from reserves, but GoI places you. So the rules conflict. You could argue either way honestly.

A locator beacon works just fine though for this.

Locator Beacons do work just fine.

Even terminators "gating" with a termi-Librarian cannot benefit from teleport homers do to the following bolded Portion:

"if terminators wish to teleport onto the battlefield using deep strike"

In both cases of teleport homers and Locator Beacons; the Gate places the unit back on the field using Deep Strike, but with termies doing so they are not "Teleporting" that is only for when they are Placed in reserves at army deployment and choosing to deepstrike. Any deepstrikes they do from the Field(table) are not teleporting.

So I assume you can only teleport from reserve then, otherwise it's a simple deepstrike.

Very annoying having to look at 4 different pages in two books just to figure out one thing. Grrrr, GW!

Yeah it is just in from normal reserve-deepstriking. the whole of the rule is found in only 1 book though: C:SM(or any variants that have deep-strike capable termies) The termie armor entry states that termies can be teleported onto the battle field, by Deepstriking as normal reserve deployment capabilities

C:SM page 102, second to last paragraph in terminator Armor wrote:Any model wearing Terminator Armor may be teleported onto the battlefield. They may always start the game in reserve and arrive using the Deepstrike rules, even if it is not part of the mission being played.

Then look to teleport homers in the same book:

C:SM page 101, teleport homer, second sentence wrote:If terminators wish to teleport onto the battle via deepstrike and choose to do so within 6" of a model carrying a teleport Homer, then they won't scatter

the only way terminators teleport onto the battle via deepstrike is when the where held in reserve and prepared for deepstriking, any other way from them to Deepstrike onto the battlefield is not teleporting(it would be using the other available special rule to Deepstrike, in this case "gate of infinity"),