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Don't say I didn't warn ya'.

Draigo - 275

Paladins (10#) - 735
- Halberd, Narthecium
- Banner, Storm Bolter
- Sword, Psycannon
- Halberd, Psycannon
- Hammer, Psycannon
- Falchions, Psycannon
- Master Crafted Sword, Storm Bolter
- Master Crafted Halberd, Storm Bolter
- Master Crafted Hammer, Storm Bolter
- Master Crafted Halberd, Storm Bolter

Paladins (10#) - 735
- Halberd, Narthecium
- Banner, Storm Bolter
- Sword, Psycannon
- Halberd, Psycannon
- Hammer, Psycannon
- Falchions, Psycannon
- Master Crafted Sword, Storm Bolter
- Master Crafted Halberd, Storm Bolter
- Master Crafted Hammer, Storm Bolter
- Master Crafted Halberd, Storm Bolter

Thoughts?

Crazy list - i'd assume just for fun.

Competitive standpoint - it'll have some problemos!

I think it needs more paladins.

In all seriousness,i might drop both nartheciums and get something else with the points

Seize Ground... granted.

Capture and Control? I just strike in, and form a battle circle around the objective, in such a way that nothing can get through, and within 3". If any get killed, I move in slightly to close the circle. They then have a dilemma. They can stay at range, and try and shoot me up - in which case I happily sit, absorb the fire, and pour Psycannons galore into them - or else they try and come close, at which point they get assaulted. And it's not like they'll want to assault me to try and pull them off the objective; I'll just mop them up in one turn, and then consolidate back into my circle!

It's not gonna be easy have more Paladins in 1750 lists.

Personally I will run 3 teams of 5 with only one of them equipped with Narthecium and Banner (in the Draigo+Librarian unit).

Psycannons for all of them, all swords in the HQ unit, 3 Halberds + 1 Hammer + 1 pair of Falchions + 2x Psycannons in the 2 others teams for a good wounds allocation mix.

IE:

HQ - Draigo. 275
HQ - Libby - Warding Stave - lvl. 3 - Quick/Might/Sanctuary/Shrouding. 255
TR - 5x Paladins - Apothecary with Warding Stave/Narthecium - 1x sword/SB - 2x sword/Psycannons - Brotherhood Banner/SB. 435
TR - 5x Paladins - 1x Halberd/SB - 1x Halberd/Psycannon - 1x Falchions/Psycannon - 1x sword/SB - 1x Hammer/SB. 320
TR - 5x Paladins - 1x Halberd/SB - 1x Halberd/Psycannon - 1x Falchions/Psycannon - 1x sword/SB - 1x Hammer/SB. 320
EL - Vindicare Assassin. 145
Tot. 1750

I know that 530 points (almost 1/3 of the total..) invested in the HQ isn't reallly a good thing but think about what they will do on the field and how many bonus they will bring alltogether to the whole army.

Originally, I was running 4 x 5 at 1,500, but I decided the Apothecary would be more efficient with 10 Paladins, rather than 5.

I'd rather have Thawn and 5 Terminators, than your Libby and Vindicare, tbh. Wait... who's critiquing who, here?!

ah ah ;D

Two macro unit are for sure fearsome, especially if with FNP, various equipment for a very good Wounds Allocation, different inv. saves, etc.

However I think that in a lot of situations you'll be forced to play on differents battlefronts in the same time and combat sq. your units wouldn't be the same thing as having more different units equipped "AD-HOC".

I'm not so sure. I can combat squad pretty effectively, and still maintain a balance in the armament of the squads themselves. It's not like I'm at any disadvantage doing so.

When push comes to shove, I have 4 Scoring Units, to your 3. I maintain that you'd do better to lose your Librarian and Vindicare in favour of Thawn and 8 Termiantors. I math failed earlier, saying 6. Thawn is a fantastic character; I'd run him myself, had I the points.

Where's the cheese?

This army is incredibly weak.

Is it?

Did you say that to Nob Bikers as well?

Las/plas razorbacks? Vendettas?

Nob Bikers can move 24 and always have a cover save, not to mention the rest of their army.

What's your plan for AP2 that sits back and shoots?

Granted. But do Nob Bikers have 2+ Armour? Or Force Weapons? Or Psycannons? I'm not calling it a Nob Bikers List. It's the same mentality, though. The same two big deathstars coming to eat you up.

Rest of their army? I was comparing it to this

AP2? Drop in in front of it. Psycannon it. Assault it. Kill it.

Has anyone actually played that 22 model Nob army? It is yucky.

Umm, so your two units (even combat squadded) kill 4 AP2 sources (potentially).

What happens when you're playing guard and they have 3 Vendettas, 4+ Melta Vet Squads, etc?

Or SW Razorback spam with 8+ RB.

You just don't have enough targetting.

And you move 6" a turn. I just walk briskly away.

I think you're missing the point. Perhaps I should have stated this plainly and clearly before going any further, but I thought it would have been inherently obvious. This list is for fun. I'm not going to take it to a tournament, or play anyone in a competitive setting, with this.

Popsicle wrote:I think you're missing the point. This list is for fun.

Nope, I got that. I was responding to your contention that this list was strong like Nob Bikers, etc.

For fun? Sure. Looks like it will be an epic last stand, super elite army versus hordes of the enemy and those are always a good time.

I clarified, I wasn't comparing it to Nob Bikers, in terms of the ins and outs of the list. Just saying, it's that sort of idea. Two small, tooled elite units, taking on the world.

In the words of Faramir... I think we finally understand one another(, Frodo Baggins.)

I do like it but can see whats your version would be scared of, my lgs managers runs a list similar and is now 12-0 since grey knight release even an army tailored to beat him couldnt.

draigo

2 x 6 paladins: 1 flag, 1 apothacary, 1 halbaerd with psycannon, 1 mc hammer, 1 halbeard with psycannon, 1 mc halbeard

2 x dreadknights with sword, jumppack and incinerator


Dreadknights rush foward using scout to kill aynthing that really scares the paladins then mop up accordingly

Popsicle wrote:Is it?

Did you say that to Nob Bikers as well?

Nob bikers are a bad one-dimensional army. This is too.

What missions has he been playing? Annihilation only?

And... that list is at 1,750 as well, right?

theonetyrant wrote:I do like it but can see whats your version would be scared of, my lgs managers runs a list similar and is now 12-0 since grey knight release even an army tailored to beat him couldnt.

draigo

2 x 6 paladins: 1 flag, 1 apothacary, 1 halbaerd with psycannon, 1 mc hammer, 1 halbeard with psycannon, 1 mc halbeard

2 x dreadknights with sword, jumppack and incinerator


Dreadknights rush foward using scout to kill aynthing that really scares the paladins then mop up accordingly

Green tide? I win.

Just drown the units in boyz and the PKs will get through eventually, same with the DKs. Volume beats the 2+ most days.

It's not a list tailoring competition. Hell, we're not even tailoring against my list in the OP! Off-topic train, all aboard!

pretre wrote:
Green tide? I win.

Just drown the units in boyz and the PKs will get through eventually, same with the DKs. Volume beats the 2+ most days.

yea i tried that, charged draigos unit with 4 full size units of boyz with a warboss and big mek, warboss got iinsta killed by a force wep, all the others killed varying amouts, i landed 49 wounds on them no paladins died but did deal around 4 wounds and killing off 3 with pk's, units then started dying from fearless and in the next turn i ran, also the scouting dreadknights with heavy incinerators hurt green tide.

And... my questions? I'm curious to know. What missions, and how many points, was he playing?

Popsicle wrote:And... my questions? I'm curious to know. What missions, and how many points, was he playing?

ermm we were playing 1750 quarters and multiple objectives 4 to be exact

And he won that? I find that surprising. I'd have expected the Dreadknights to be taken out. Assuming Draigo made them both scoring?

I'm sorry, it's dreadful. Only for a fun army it may work. Anything with a decent AP value could wipe you out.

I would suggest dropping 1 Paladin squad for some Grey Knights and Dreadknights.

Suggest a non-tailored list to prove your point? I consider Plasmaspam tailored, incidentally.

If by "cheese" you mean "this list sucks", then this is one of the cheesiest lists I've seen. I hope you never have to fight Tau, Eldar, Dark Eldar, or Imperial Guard!


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On the other hand it will be really good against those pesky 120 marine footslogging Black Templar armies with no heavy weapons!

I'd drop some upgrades on the paladins and take a plasma syphon grenade laden inquisitor

I'm doubtful that it sucks as much as people try to suggest. Granted, it has its weaknesses, but it's for fun.

Besides, they may kill some of the Paladins... but then they're being Psycannoned and Assaulted.