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2011/04/09 20:13:02
Subject: Crucible versus GK vehicles.
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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As asked by Dash in his DE tactic thread ( http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/180/357250.page) I post this question:
Does the Crucible of Malediction affect Grey Knight vehicles? My take on it is no, as the psychic pilot rule states that a vehicle with the rule only is a psyker when casting a power and when it's rolling off for a psychic hood. Dash seemed to imply that he felt otherwise although I, as I am not Dashofpepper, can't confirm this.
/can'o'worms for another 18 pages.
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For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
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2011/04/09 21:15:21
Subject: Crucible versus GK vehicles.
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Sinewy Scourge
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I say we should just wait for FAQ. Its a good question, just its pointless at this point to really argue until GW puts out a FAQ.
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 Wyzilla wrote:Saying the Eldar won the War in Heaven is like saying a child won a fight with a murderer simply because after breaking into his house, shooting his mother and father through the head, the thug took off in a car instead of finishing off the kid.
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2011/04/09 21:22:47
Subject: Crucible versus GK vehicles.
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Raging Ravener
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Actually, I think this one's pretty clear (and the OP is right). The rule says, "treat the vehicle as a psyker...for the purposes of Psychic tests and psychic hoods."
RAW, the vehicle is never a psyker. Sometimes you treat it as a psyker, but the use of a CoM is not one of those times. Therefore, the CoM doesn't effect it.
I really don't see how you could read it another way...but I'll bet I'm about to find out...
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2011/04/09 21:37:50
Subject: Crucible versus GK vehicles.
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Hesperus wrote:Actually, I think this one's pretty clear (and the OP is right). The rule says, "treat the vehicle as a psyker...for the purposes of Psychic tests and psychic hoods."
RAW, the vehicle is never a psyker. Sometimes you treat it as a psyker, but the use of a CoM is not one of those times. Therefore, the CoM doesn't effect it.
I really don't see how you could read it another way...but I'll bet I'm about to find out...
Which is what I'm thinking too...
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2011/04/09 23:16:25
Subject: Crucible versus GK vehicles.
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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My take on it:
Does the unit entry have the word Psyker under it's rules? These days they're pretty good at including that.
If yes: its a psyker
If no: its not, even of it gets to act like one sometimes 
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts 
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2011/04/10 04:04:11
Subject: Crucible versus GK vehicles.
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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2011/04/10 04:37:18
Subject: Crucible versus GK vehicles.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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No CoM has no effect on GK Vehicles, this is because of the way the Psychic pilot rule is worded.
"A vehicle with this special rule is treated as being a psyker (Mastery level 1) and Leadership 10 for the purposes of Psychic tests and psychic hoods."
Only 'for the purposes of Psychic tests and psychic hoods' 'is treated as being a psyker (Mastery level 1) and Leadership 10'
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2011/04/10 07:42:26
Subject: Crucible versus GK vehicles.
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Would that be the same search feature that locks up every time I try to use it?
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