Warhammer Fantasy Rumours (incl. release schedules): Dwarf and WE release list rumour 15th November

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**Warboss Imbad Ironskull**

Gotta say kinda depressed about what I've seen concerning Bretonnians. I don't play WHFB anymore due to the multiple reasons listed in this thread but a Bretonnian update would definitely get me back in the game. I've seen it said that nothing could be added to the army but also as was said one just needs to look into Arthurian Legend. Also there could be new peasant units, new characters and they could probably redesign the grail relique to be plastic with an option of making a shrine of the lady, maybe even something about the questing beast.

And the design team at GW is pretty creative. I mean who would have thought of wingless griffons as a cavalry mount for the Empire. I know this is pretty much wish listing but there is plenty of material to draw upon for an update.

Still holding on to my hope for Bretonnians

**Ehsteve**

Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:
Gotta say kinda depressed about what I've seen concerning Bretonnians. I don't play WHFB anymore due to the multiple reasons listed in this thread but a Bretonnian update would definitely get me back in the game. I've seen it said that nothing could be added to the army but also as was said one just needs to look into Arthurian Legend. Also there could be new peasant units, new characters and they could probably redesign the grail relique to be plastic with an option of making a shrine of the lady, maybe even something about the questing beast.

And the design team at GW is pretty creative. I mean who would have thought of wingless griffons as a cavalry mount for the Empire. I know this is pretty much wish listing but there is plenty of material to draw upon for an update.

Still holding on to my hope for Bretonnians

A lot of the delays relating to Bretonnians are in relation to their 'silhouette'. As much as you can try, it is difficult to come up with an idea for a monster-type unit for them to use (mainly because in any sort of legends they just straight up kill them upon sight for honour/glory/damsel etc). In addition a lot of the current Bretonnian range is pretty much entirely classified as historical figures. This does not allow GW the kind of hold on design and IP which make them able to enforce any sort of copyright infringement if others were to create miniatures for a similar purpose (just look at gamezone Fuedal Knights for example, some beautiful miniatures there).

So what they are forced to do is try to keep it all within the Arthurian/Charlemagne-era aesthetic, but differentiate it enough so that it is distinct in design and so they are able to claim ownership of said aesthetic/design and associated symbols in conjunction. This is far easier said than done, and a lot of the current Bretonnian rumour point to them not being released for some time, but still being in the works.

So don't hold your breath for Bretonnians anytime soon, but they are still being worked on nonetheless.

It's not for lack of trying, but rather that the execution of the release has a lot of requirements in order to tick every box from the higher ups in order to leave the studio.

**pities2004**

Cavalry isn't very strong in this edition compared to last edition, they have to fix the lance formation and maybe give brettonian cav stomp or something.

**jonolikespie**

I think slapping an impact hits rule in with the lance formation would be enough. Maybe 1d6 hits +1 per rank after the 2nd or something.

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Did Lizardmen not get updated pretty recently?

**Experiment 626**

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Did Lizardmen not get updated pretty recently?

Well, if you think 2008? is recent, then yes they did.

Of course, considering how obscene their magic phase is, and that currently the 'uber tricked-out Slaans are the only things keeping the book looking competitive...
Lizzies could really use that face lift to bring the Slaan into line and buff the rest of the book.

**Eeyore**

Just a thought, why are there no golems in WHFB?
Meaning a creature/monster made out of rock. I do not recall seeing one anywhere and I think it would make a good fit with wood elves, and if logically it would be too strong it can just have a weakness to magic like ethereal units.

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Eeyore wrote:
Just a thought, why are there no golems in WHFB?
Meaning a creature/monster made out of rock. I do not recall seeing one anywhere and I think it would make a good fit with wood elves, and if logically it would be too strong it can just have a weakness to magic like ethereal units.

I think there's an Orc one made by FW.

**DarkStarSabre**

Eeyore wrote:
Just a thought, why are there no golems in WHFB?
Meaning a creature/monster made out of rock. I do not recall seeing one anywhere and I think it would make a good fit with wood elves, and if logically it would be too strong it can just have a weakness to magic like ethereal units.

Did you miss half the Tomb Kings range?

**RiTides**

K'daii for chaos dwarfs are a type of golem (although more fire based).

**pizzaguardian**

Here you go;

pizzaguardian:

Warhammer: Lizardmen
· 96 page full colour, hardback Warhammer army book.

· Contains new Artwork, Background and Rules whilst showcasing the fantastic Warhammer miniature range.

Warhammer: Lizardmen Carnosaur

· This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that makes one of four possible massive center-piece miniatures.

· HUGE - 8 inches long by 5 inches tall

· Can make an Oldblood on Carnosaur, Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur, Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur or Troglodon with Skink Oracle.

Warhammer: Lizardmen Terradon/ Ripperdactyl Riders

· This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that can be assemble as either 3 Terradons or 3 Ripperdactyls, flying cavalry mounts ridden by Lizardmen Skinks.

· Included Parts to upgrade one Terradon rider to the special character Tiktaq'to.

Warhammer: Lizardman Bastiladon

· This box contains a brand new multipart plastic kit that makes a Bastiladon carrying either a Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek.

Warhammer: Lizardman Skink Priest

· An addition to the popular plastic heroes Clampacks.

· The Lizardman Skink Priest is adorned in feathered plumes and carries a traditional Lizardman totem.

New Finecast Releases

Warhammer: Lizardmen Gor-Rok
· A Clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature.

· A Lizardmen Special Character particularly suited to close combat.

Warhammer: Lizardmen Tetto'eko

· A boxset containing one finely detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature.

· A skink Priets on a Palanquin.

Have no other info just this text.

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and it's August release obv.

**unmercifulconker**

Warhammer: Lizardmen Carnosaur

· This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that makes one of four possible massive center-piece miniatures.

· HUGE - 8 inches long by 5 inches tall

· Can make an Oldblood on Carnosaur, Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur, Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur or Troglodon with Skink Oracle.

Preach it.

**Tangent**

Man, I really hope they're not called Ripperdactyls. That name is extra dumb.

But yay on big dinosaurs!

**HoverBoy**

Tangent wrote:
Man, I really hope they're not called Ripperdactyls. That name is extra dumb.

But yay on big dinosaurs!

Extra dumb, extra 90s, s'all the same.

But i already have 4 stegadons how many more dinos does GW expect me to fit in a single carry case.

**Aerethan**

So the Short Bus cold ones are staying! This is great news!

I'm surprised at no MC unit, opting instead for 2 new huge beasties.

Ripperdactyl sounds like something an 8 year old came up with after seeing Jurassic Park and deciding to do his own genetic experiments. A truly uninspired name.

In other news, Scar Veterans on Carnosaurs is a new twist.

**pretre**

Why don't we take the LM discussion over to the new LM thread and save this one from getting gummed up?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/541384.page

**Ninjakinshu**

Whoa hold on a tick - Brets are getting an update? For reals? AND Dwarfs? Jeebus... These were among my first Warhammer armies!

**RiTides**

Not anytime soon, seemingly...

**Aerethan**

The fact that Bretonnians have gone a straight decade without so much as a WD update should tell you how important that army is to GW.

Which is a damn shame, because it's one of the few armies with decent plastic core models that aren't begging to be redone.

**Kroothawk**

RiTides wrote:
Not anytime soon, seemingly...

Within a year for dwarfs and 1.5 years for brets, that's something.

**Mr.Church13**

Kroothawk wrote:
RiTides wrote:
Not anytime soon, seemingly...

Within a year for dwarfs and 1.5 years for brets, that's something.

Within a year for dwarves? Hahahahha! 1.5 years for brets. Hohoho no....stop it my side hurts!

No possible way. All GW cares about is rehashing WoC, Daemons, and Lizards over and over with the occasional Ogre or Tomb King thrown in to keep the pheasants happy.

The game is far too big monster centric for Brets. Too magic centric for Dwarves. And GW just plain doesn't give a crap about wood elves.

A rehash of dwarves is the only thing keeping me completely out of Fantasy, has been for years. But with how 8th edition really hurt Fantasy in most areas I don't see them getting updates until they change editions. If they even get it then.

**Kroothawk**

9th edition will come 2014 or 2015 latest.

**Aerethan**

Kroothawk wrote:
9th edition will come 2014 or 2015 latest.

I'll gak a brick if 9th hits before Bretonnians and Wood Elves. Perhaps we should organize a protest in front of GW HQ for those armies to finally be done, or for a release schedule to be made public.

**nels1031**

Aerethan wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
9th edition will come 2014 or 2015 latest.

I'll gak a brick if 9th hits before Bretonnians and Wood Elves.

I'd rather have Brets and WE's part of an updated edition, then be an edition behind when 9th hits. Who knows, 9th might buff skirmishers and cavalry (Fast and Regular Cav) thereby breathing some brief life into their Army books until they get a 9th rewrite. Each respective book has more problems then just core rules that are unfavorable to them, but a few tweeks to those core rules could get them in a right direction.

**Aerethan**

Lord knows both Skirmishers and Cavalry need some love.

**Kanluwen**

Aerethan wrote:
Lord knows both Skirmishers and Cavalry need some love.

True, but I almost wonder if this will not be a case of Dark Eldar or Necrons where we see new 'options' for the Core.

I can easily envision Wood Elves getting a Lothern Sea Guard-esque unit for the Eternal Guard or Bretonnians getting a unit of Knights Errant on foot.

**Kroothawk**

Aerethan wrote:
I'll gak a brick if 9th hits before Bretonnians and Wood Elves. Perhaps we should organize a protest in front of GW HQ for those armies to finally be done, or for a release schedule to be made public.

Do you want Bretonnians streamlined for an edition full of big monsters and then get a ruleset instantly outdating them?
Do you want Wood Elves streamlined for an edition nerfing skirmishers to death and then get a ruleset instantly outdating them?

**Tangent**

Aerethan wrote:
The fact that Bretonnians have gone a straight decade without so much as a WD update should tell you how important that army is to GW.

Which is a damn shame, because it's one of the few armies with decent plastic core models that aren't begging to be redone.

Really? It's been a decade for Brets?

**dienekes96**

Brets and Witchunters both released in 2003. Seriously.

**Tangent**

So what you're saying is that they need to re-release some witchunters. Now that's an army I'd play!