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 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
D6 hits per flamer to the guys inside. There might not BE anyone left inside if you hit em with enough AP 4 flameage. And if the flamer/Stormbolters explodes the vehicle, all the more casualties!

I challenged a DE player recently and I have been wondering if it was a good idea because he has a lot of counters to my list but this boosted my confidence a good amount.

DE can be decent against Marine armies.
Make sure that he cannot fly circles around your army.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
D6 hits per flamer to the guys inside. There might not BE anyone left inside if you hit em with enough AP 4 flameage. And if the flamer/Stormbolters explodes the vehicle, all the more casualties!

I challenged a DE player recently and I have been wondering if it was a good idea because he has a lot of counters to my list but this boosted my confidence a good amount.

DE can be decent against Marine armies.
Make sure that he cannot fly circles around your army.

What do you mean and how does one stop that?

GK have a huge advantage over DE do to Shunt and near-army-wide Deep Strike. Unlike most opponents, where the goal is to focus down one enemy unit at a time, GK should be going MSU and engaging as many DE units as possible right out of the gate. A weaken DE unit this turn is a dead DE unit next turn. All of their advantages are neutralized once the gap is closed, while their open-topped Raiders work against them versus our heavy use of Incinerators. Our 2+/5++ AP3 dominance in CC is perfect for mopping up what's left on a turn 2 charge. Frankly, DE need to worry about GK, not the other way around. Or at least until their new Codex comes out and they lose a bunch of units and uniqueness.

SJ

Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

When you cast cleansing flame on a vehicle, do you use the AV of the side closest the purifier casting it? Also, I assume it takes out vehicles with an AV no more than 11 unless I'm missing something? I can't wait for my land raider, survivability has been an issue with my purifiers.

Sixcyl wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

When you cast cleansing flame on a vehicle, do you use the AV of the side closest the purifier casting it? Also, I assume it takes out vehicles with an AV no more than 11 unless I'm missing something? I can't wait for my land raider, survivability has been an issue with my purifiers.

I would assume the closest facing because nova's are treated like a shooting attack. Don't the the BRB handy on me.

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

How?

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

How?

It's not as far as I know. But I'd rather not this turn into a YMDC thread lol. There has to be a thread on this point in YMDC already right? Has to be. No need to rehash it in here...

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

There isn't anything illegal about that strat...

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Not if the Drop Pod was purchased as a Fast Attack.

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

The pod is a dedicated transport for Space wolves, is it not? Has there been a change in the codex? I haven't read it, but unless it is its own slot on the FOC...

 Jancoran wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

The pod is a dedicated transport for Space wolves, is it not? Has there been a change in the codex? I haven't read it, but unless it is its own slot on the FOC...

It does, it's FAST.

 Jancoran wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

The pod is a dedicated transport for Space wolves, is it not? Has there been a change in the codex? I haven't read it, but unless
it is its own slot on the FOC...

Its legal if the Pod is taken from the FA section in the SW codex.

 Envihon wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
D6 hits per flamer to the guys inside. There might not BE anyone left inside if you hit em with enough AP 4 flameage. And if the flamer/Stormbolters explodes the vehicle, all the more casualties!

I challenged a DE player recently and I have been wondering if it was a good idea because he has a lot of counters to my list but this boosted my confidence a good amount.

DE can be decent against Marine armies.
Make sure that he cannot fly circles around your army.

What do you mean and how does one stop that?

Well, DE have long range fire power which is also mobile, e.g., Venons, Ravagers, Raiders.
A GK army usually relies on psycannons which are shorter ranged. Without mobility such an army gets trapped.

 Jancoran wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

The pod is a dedicated transport for Space wolves, is it not? Has there been a change in the codex? I haven't read it, but unless it is its own slot on the FOC...

Yes, but its also a Fast Attack choice. Like every other DT in every book release since 7th came out.

DTs in newer dexes are Fast Attack choices which can be purchased by certain units without taking up a slot.

 Jancoran wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

The pod is a dedicated transport for Space wolves, is it not? Has there been a change in the codex? I haven't read it, but unless it is its own slot on the FOC...

Yes there is a big change with all of the 7th edition codex's.
Ork: Trucks are now Fast Attack
Space Wolves: Rhinos, Razorbacks and Drop Pods are now Fast Attack
Grey Knights: Rhinos and Razorback are now Fast Attack

 Jancoran wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

The pod is a dedicated transport for Space wolves, is it not? Has there been a change in the codex? I haven't read it, but unless it is its own slot on the FOC...

Already stated, but Space Wolves can take empty pods as Fast Attack choices in the new dex

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

The pod is a dedicated transport for Space wolves, is it not? Has there been a change in the codex? I haven't read it, but unless it is its own slot on the FOC...

Already stated, but Space Wolves can take empty pods as Fast Attack choices in the new dex

This is good news for GK.
Purifiers are the best unit in the GK codex to benefit from this kind of transport.

Its also the only way Purifiers can Deep Strike.

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its also the only way Purifiers can Deep Strike.

An alternative would be a small Purgator squad with four psycannons.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its also the only way Purifiers can Deep Strike.

An alternative would be a small Purgator squad with four psycannons.

I have been think that too, that or Incinerators.

Why would you use Purgs with Incinerators? 5 man Purifier squad could do what they do with Cleansing flame.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its also the only way Purifiers can Deep Strike.

An alternative would be a small Purgator squad with four psycannons.

I have been think that too, that or Incinerators.

Or aim for endurance with 4 Psycannons...I've been having fun with relentless fnp purifiers.

 ductvader wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its also the only way Purifiers can Deep Strike.

An alternative would be a small Purgator squad with four psycannons.

I have been think that too, that or Incinerators.

Or aim for endurance with 4 Psycannons...I've been having fun with relentless fnp purifiers.

Endurance is a biomancy power isnt it? GK psykers cant roll on that table

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 ductvader wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its also the only way Purifiers can Deep Strike.

An alternative would be a small Purgator squad with four psycannons.

I have been think that too, that or Incinerators.

Or aim for endurance with 4 Psycannons...I've been having fun with relentless fnp purifiers.

Endurance is a biomancy power isnt it? GK psykers cant roll on that table

Well, you're taking SWs for pods or ultramarines or so on and so on.

I recently added some sentinels of terra (with libby) to my gk as well.


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I also found biomacy to be a nice source of supplemental ap2 shooting.

Yea if you take a psyker from another dex that works

 ductvader wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 ductvader wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Its also the only way Purifiers can Deep Strike.

An alternative would be a small Purgator squad with four psycannons.

I have been think that too, that or Incinerators.

Or aim for endurance with 4 Psycannons...I've been having fun with relentless fnp purifiers.

Endurance is a biomancy power isnt it? GK psykers cant roll on that table

Well, you're taking SWs for pods or ultramarines or so on and so on.

I recently added some sentinels of terra (with libby) to my gk as well.


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I also found biomacy to be a nice source of supplemental ap2 shooting.

I use Sentinels of Terra for my allies as well, what are you using to deliver the Purifiers? Right now I have Draigo, a GK Libby, and a Imperial Fist Libby all go with a squad of Grav Centurions. Hmm...that just gave me another idea on delivering the Purifiers, what about taking Draigo for guranteed Gate? Have a ML3 Libby take the book to get another roll on Sanctic and roll all of your powers on Sanctic to try for Gate as well. If the Libby gets Gate split the two to have 5 Purifiers go with Draigo and the others with the Libby, Gate both in at the same time. And if the Libby doesn't get Gate, keep them one squad. It hurts the combo a little bit but hopefully it won't happen that much?

 Grey Templar wrote:


DTs in newer dexes are Fast Attack choices which can be purchased by certain units without taking up a slot.

EVERY? which dex's have them in fast attack slots as of now?

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

 Envihon wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

azactaylor wrote:
Has anyone else had amazing success with purifiers DS through a SW drop pod! I have 2 10 man units that have been coming in behind the enemy turn 1 and 2.... casting cleansing flame has devastated vehicles and units alike. It has been phenomenal!

Illegal.

Which is the illegal part?

The pod is a dedicated transport for Space wolves, is it not? Has there been a change in the codex? I haven't read it, but unless it is its own slot on the FOC...

Yes there is a big change with all of the 7th edition codex's.
Ork: Trucks are now Fast Attack
Space Wolves: Rhinos, Razorbacks and Drop Pods are now Fast Attack
Grey Knights: Rhinos and Razorback are now Fast Attack

^Here

 Jancoran wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:


DTs in newer dexes are Fast Attack choices which can be purchased by certain units without taking up a slot.

EVERY? which dex's have them in fast attack slots as of now?