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Dominions need something else to be relevant. Perhaps move to 2A or WS 3+ in melee if GW wont make a new kit for regular Celestians now that they've gone?

But honestly, even if [Rapid Fire 2] was a kinda obvious errata, it should had stayed. They need to punch harder for that price.

 Guillérmidas wrote:
Dominions need something else to be relevant. Perhaps move to 2A or WS 3+ in melee if GW wont make a new kit for regular Celestians now that they've gone?

But honestly, even if [Rapid Fire 2] was a kinda obvious errata, it should had stayed. They need to punch harder for that price.

giving them crappy melee wont help them they either need a firepower increase or to be cheaper.

For 20 points more than a Battle Sisters squad you get Scout 6", Assault Weapons, Re-Roll Advance Rolls, and 4 Special Weapons instead of a Special+Special/Heavy. If Dominions are not relevant it is because Sisters are too expensive overall, not this specific unit.

Dominions should all have special weapons as base.
...because that's what a Dominion is.

 Guillérmidas wrote:
Dominions need something else to be relevant. Perhaps move to 2A or WS 3+ in melee if GW wont make a new kit for regular Celestians now that they've gone?

But honestly, even if [Rapid Fire 2] was a kinda obvious errata, it should had stayed. They need to punch harder for that price.

That would do literally nothing. That's like giving a rhino sustained hits. Sure, it's technically better, just not in a way that matters.


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 alextroy wrote:
For 20 points more than a Battle Sisters squad you get Scout 6", Assault Weapons, Re-Roll Advance Rolls, and 4 Special Weapons instead of a Special+Special/Heavy. If Dominions are not relevant it is because Sisters are too expensive overall, not this specific unit.

Battle Sisters are relevant because they sit on objectives and generate miracle dice. They're too expensive for what they do, but they have a niche.

Dominions:
1. Have scout in an edition where scout is pretty mid for a shooting unit. It does nothing for them on foot and isn't that significant when they're in a transport.
2. Have reroll advances when the army has miracle dice. If the distance you needed on the advance was important enough for a reroll to matter, you should have Miracle Diced it. Advance rolls are one of the few things in the game that can potentially be a more valuable use of the dice than damage rolls.
3. They are a damage dealing unit that doesn't do any damage. 130pts for 4 melta shots is terrible. 130pts for 4 flamers (even S5 flamers) is terrible, 130pts for 4 Stormbolters is beyond laughable.
4. Their only viable buff character doesn't buff 1/3rd of their loadouts.
5. They occupy a similar niche to Seraphim, who are easily the best unit in the entire index. The only situations where dominions are better than Seraphim, are situations where Retributors are better than dominions.

Dominions are a bad unit that serves no purpose. If you start pricing Battle Sister bodies more appropriately, every unit they compete with ends up going down at the same rate they do and they still end up in a place where; if you're thinking about bringing dominions, examine what you want them to do, and then bring retributors or Seraphim instead.

ERJAK wrote:

 Guillérmidas wrote:
Dominions need something else to be relevant. Perhaps move to 2A or WS 3+ in melee if GW wont make a new kit for regular Celestians now that they've gone?

But honestly, even if [Rapid Fire 2] was a kinda obvious errata, it should had stayed. They need to punch harder for that price.

That would do literally nothing. That's like giving a rhino sustained hits. Sure, it's technically better, just not in a way that matters.

You're not wrong, but when Sisters get their Detachment that's more focused on melee it would be more relevant. Sometimes amplifying melee a little bit goes a long way for a close quarters unit.