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2015/04/10 13:01:09
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
BrookM wrote: Hehehe, the Onager was originally called the Mars Universal Land Engine, or MULE.
We definitely need some combat MULEs to hunt some Wampuses.
Looking at the rules for Ironstrider cavaliers, I could see them being pretty useful(albeit very expensive) especially with things like jezzails for that re-roll to wound with the double wound sniper.
Also outflank, acute senses, and reserves on turn one is really powerful. Especially with their strength against vehicles with shooting. Even then its a lot of vehicles in your deployment zone turn 1. Combined with an aggressive assault army I could see it making waves. Also a solid first blood machine.
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People who stopped buying GW but wont stop bitching about it are the vegans of warhammer
Thanks for uploading those paint schemes. If I ever decide to buy some Mechanicus I'll go with the Stygies style since they look a lot like what I assumed the Dark Mechanicum looks like plus their logo goes well the Alpha Legion I have.
BrookM wrote: I had a peek at the English codex just now, it is gorgeous and filled with lovely pieces of new, never seen before art.
.
New art?
In a GW book?
I disbeleive.
Probably just trading card/PRG art you've not seen a hundred times already
I run the art thread and tumblr remember? I kinda sorta know something about the stuff they use.
I kid. But seriously, loads of new stuff, aside from one Blanche piece that may have been from a previous rulebook, it is all new stuff.
The Harlequin book had a lot of new art too.
I want people to remember that when they complain about the price of the book. You get your printing costs, your shipping costs, you pay the writers and have profit for the company... but you also have to pay the artists too. Show those artists some love! They do phenomenal work!
2015/04/10 15:54:02
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
BrookM wrote: Especially now that a lot of the artists they hire are outsiders or freelancers.
that explains the new styles and variety
And quality. Every codex I get all fuzzy and warm inside with how cool the art is. They really deserve our love.
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2015/04/10 16:14:12
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
BrookM wrote: Especially now that a lot of the artists they hire are outsiders or freelancers.
that explains the new styles and variety
And quality. Every codex I get all fuzzy and warm inside with how cool the art is. They really deserve our love.
Quite a lot of the freelancers can be found on DeviantArt these days, so if you come across them, be sure to tell them how you feel about the work they've done for GW and FFG.
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2015/04/10 16:34:01
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
I want people to remember that when they complain about the price of the book. You get your printing costs, your shipping costs, you pay the writers and have profit for the company... but you also have to pay the artists too. Show those artists some love! They do phenomenal work!
Those same costs in varying degrees existing with every other version of every other GW came out with; they didn't just pop up suddenly in the era of 6th/7th edition codex hardback books with a $50 price tag (so 50% HIGHER price) and a 2 year life cycle (50% LOWER period of usefulness). The new art isn't the main reason for an effective 300% increase in cost to the consumer but rather GW's greed is.
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2015/04/10 17:01:16
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: Do what you like? Ultimately you have to look at them for, years to come, so as long as you are happy, you can write your own fluff.
This every time. It is your hobby, your army and your money. My Skitarii are purple, no idea why yet.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: Do what you like? Ultimately you have to look at them for, years to come, so as long as you are happy, you can write your own fluff.
This every time. It is your hobby, your army and your money. My Skitarii are purple, no idea why yet.
Because purple is awesome?
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2015/04/10 18:05:00
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
Could you give me fluffy reason to validate different colour scheme on specific Forge World skitarii?
I really like all of them, but because I am a poor painter - I think, I need something simpler.
Also fluffwise - which BL book can you recommend for "first one". I would like to build some nice, cheesy narrative around my force.
Thanks!
Hammer and Anvil has some good Mechanicum fluff in it, as far as I've heard.
As for different colors, honestly whatever reason your mind can think up is good, but if you're looking for simple, then here's what I plan to do.
I really like to have my army fully painted and fast, so I don't spend tons of time on finicky details and edge highlights and all that. A good wash/drybrush mix is good to hit all the recesses and raised edges to give the mini depth without spending hours and hours on each one. For my Admech, I intend to prime black, and then not touch the inside of the robe at all. Painting the inside of the robe will add a lot of time and take a lot of effort to each model, especially if you already glued them to the base. By priming black, which obscures any details that are amiss under the robe, I can devote more time to making the rest really pop.
Then, hit all the metal bits with silver. Feet, bionic arms, helmets, masks, chestplates, etc. Easy and straightforward.
Finally, pick two colors: one for the robe, and one for the lenses. The mechanicum is rife with lenses and visors and lights, and having colors that work together will help your minis look good without a lot of effort. Red and blue look really good together, which is why you see a lot of it across the Skitarii models. You could also do white robes with red lenses, which would look striking, or do purple lenses with yellow robes. Contrasting colors work well. Remember that the lighter colors are going to be tough to work with over black primer, so just keep that in mind.
As for fluff, it really comes down to the forgeworld that your Admech come from. Is your forgeworld rich with Copper? Perhaps a lot of the metal they wear will have turned green from oxidation. Is your forgeworld dusty and dry, or is it really humid, with lots of steam and water? That could be a good excuse for faded, brown colors, or moldy appearances. Perhaps the warriors of your Forgeworld can't dye their robes red because of sun-bleaching, and so they use blue or green instead, so that the colors don't fade under their unusual sun? Perhaps your Forgeworld has really close ties with a certain Space Marine faction, like the Sons of Medusa, and so they make their robes green to show that loyalty.
If there's a color you like and think would look good, go for it!
2015/04/10 18:17:47
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
BrookM wrote: I had a peek at the English codex just now, it is gorgeous and filled with lovely pieces of new, never seen before art.
.
New art?
In a GW book?
I disbeleive.
Probably just trading card/PRG art you've not seen a hundred times already
I run the art thread and tumblr remember? I kinda sorta know something about the stuff they use.
I kid. But seriously, loads of new stuff, aside from one Blanche piece that may have been from a previous rulebook, it is all new stuff.
I'm most interested to know if there's any new Blanche art in there. His Mechanicus stuff was what drew me to the faction in the first place, and for me personally a lot of the newer "clean" digitally-painted art in recent publications isn't that appealing.
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2015/04/10 18:20:59
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
Not to add kindling to the plastic warhound rumor, but has anyone else noticed how many pictures of warhounds there are in the Skitarii codex? It stands out to me fore several reasons.
A) there have been plenty of pictures of battles including titans in the past, what intrigues me about this book is that despite the Skitarii being the support for the entire Titanicus, there are no pictures of any other titans besides warhounds. If they were trying to show them as being titan support it would have made sense to show them with several kinds, but instead, its just multiple pictures with warhounds.
B)Every other character or unit type pictured in the new artwork is a produced model in the new skitarii range. The only unit in the artowrd not currently produced by GW is the warhound.
Its definitely possible that they are just trying to pump forgeworld but has that been the case in an of the other codexes? I could be wrong but I dont think I've seen FW products in GW codex artowrk since the old days when it was the artwork without a model that FW would then get around to eventually producing. With LOW now a much more regular thing to the point of even being in normal codexes, is there a possibility that the warhound would be included as an LOW choice in the full mechanicus codex? Even if it werent moving to plastic, with FW coming to the gw webstore, might they simly start adding FW units to normal codexes? It just got me thinking.
2015/04/10 18:21:31
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
BrookM wrote: I had a peek at the English codex just now, it is gorgeous and filled with lovely pieces of new, never seen before art.
.
New art?
In a GW book?
I disbeleive.
Probably just trading card/PRG art you've not seen a hundred times already
I run the art thread and tumblr remember? I kinda sorta know something about the stuff they use.
I kid. But seriously, loads of new stuff, aside from one Blanche piece that may have been from a previous rulebook, it is all new stuff.
I'm most interested to know if there's any new Blanche art in there. His Mechanicus stuff was what drew me to the faction in the first place, and for me personally a lot of the newer "clean" digitally-painted art in recent publications isn't that appealing.
Only piece of art done by him is this one:
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2015/04/10 19:09:56
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p119/120 new codex pics
"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness.
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2015/04/10 19:11:16
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p199/120 new codex pics
Could you give me fluffy reason to validate different colour scheme on specific Forge World skitarii?
I really like all of them, but because I am a poor painter - I think, I need something simpler.
Also fluffwise - which BL book can you recommend for "first one". I would like to build some nice, cheesy narrative around my force.
Thanks!
Hammer and Anvil has some good Mechanicum fluff in it, as far as I've heard.
As for different colors, honestly whatever reason your mind can think up is good, but if you're looking for simple, then here's what I plan to do.
I really like to have my army fully painted and fast, so I don't spend tons of time on finicky details and edge highlights and all that. A good wash/drybrush mix is good to hit all the recesses and raised edges to give the mini depth without spending hours and hours on each one. For my Admech, I intend to prime black, and then not touch the inside of the robe at all. Painting the inside of the robe will add a lot of time and take a lot of effort to each model, especially if you already glued them to the base. By priming black, which obscures any details that are amiss under the robe, I can devote more time to making the rest really pop.
Then, hit all the metal bits with silver. Feet, bionic arms, helmets, masks, chestplates, etc. Easy and straightforward.
Finally, pick two colors: one for the robe, and one for the lenses. The mechanicum is rife with lenses and visors and lights, and having colors that work together will help your minis look good without a lot of effort. Red and blue look really good together, which is why you see a lot of it across the Skitarii models. You could also do white robes with red lenses, which would look striking, or do purple lenses with yellow robes. Contrasting colors work well. Remember that the lighter colors are going to be tough to work with over black primer, so just keep that in mind.
I have started priming white and then doing a black coat over anything metal. Really gives you better depth on anyhting non metalic. If you are still learning to paint I do recommend priming black but try a few models priming white and seeing what that gives you. When you get better at it you can do special models in white and rank and file in black.
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2015/04/10 19:11:56
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p119/120 new codex pics
Counting duplicate images, Warhounds are spotted four times in the book.. front and back interior cover, plus two interior art pieces, one of which is also used for said interior covers.
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2015/04/10 19:15:01
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p119/120 new codex pics
adamsouza wrote: If they added a Warhound as a LOW choice people would gak bricks
Well there is the Cult Mechanicus redirects already on GWs site, so codex: Skitarii HQs choices is coming. Could be in there, unless GW drags it out some more over another couple of books.
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