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If I shunt interceptors into difficult terrain, do I have to roll for a dangerous terrain check? I dont see anything that would make me roll.

I would imagine so, since they become jump infantry and they have the added rule of landing in difficult terrain causes dangerous terrain checks.

Unless they have a rule in their wargear or unit that states they ignore all terrain or don't take checks, then they take the tests.

Premise 1. Gear makes unit Jump Infantry.
Premise 2. Jump Infantry have to take Dangerous Terrain tests when they begin or end their move in Difficult Terrain.

Conclusion: Left as an exercise for the reader.

It comes down to if the shunt move counts as them using their jet pack.

Jump Infantry eat the Dangerous roll unless they're moving on foot. Is the model walking? Or shunting?

they count as jump infantry so have to take DT tests.

the item that gives them shunt lets them ignore intervening terrain, but not terrain then end their move in.

elfmagic wrote:It comes down to if the shunt move counts as them using their jet pack.

It doesn't matter if the shunt counts as "using" the jetpacks or not. Jetpack infantry cannot choose to not be jump pack infantry by moving in a different way. If jump pack infantry begin or END (ie at the end of a shunt) their move in terrain, they take a DT test. Period.

Darkjediben wrote:

elfmagic wrote:It comes down to if the shunt move counts as them using their jet pack.

It doesn't matter if the shunt counts as "using" the jetpacks or not. Jetpack infantry cannot choose to not be jump pack infantry by moving in a different way. If jump pack infantry begin or END (ie at the end of a shunt) their move in terrain, they take a DT test. Period.

And yet the rulebook tells us that you can choose to walk instead of jumping, thus ignoring the DT test.

Not saying that they don't have to test, but the idea that JI always have to take DT test is false.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Darkjediben wrote:

elfmagic wrote:It comes down to if the shunt move counts as them using their jet pack.

It doesn't matter if the shunt counts as "using" the jetpacks or not. Jetpack infantry cannot choose to not be jump pack infantry by moving in a different way. If jump pack infantry begin or END (ie at the end of a shunt) their move in terrain, they take a DT test. Period.

And yet the rulebook tells us that you can choose to walk instead of jumping, thus ignoring the DT test.

Not saying that they don't have to test, but the idea that JI always have to take DT test is false.

Is Shunting walking? Then you take the test.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Darkjediben wrote:

elfmagic wrote:It comes down to if the shunt move counts as them using their jet pack.

It doesn't matter if the shunt counts as "using" the jetpacks or not. Jetpack infantry cannot choose to not be jump pack infantry by moving in a different way. If jump pack infantry begin or END (ie at the end of a shunt) their move in terrain, they take a DT test. Period.

And yet the rulebook tells us that you can choose to walk instead of jumping, thus ignoring the DT test.

Not saying that they don't have to test, but the idea that JI always have to take DT test is false.

Yep. The rulebook says that Jump Infantry can either move as normal infantry, but the instant they move more than 6' they're using their packs.

Yet moving 30" is NOT moving as Jump Infantry, by definition.

You do not take a test, because you are NOT moving as Jump Infantry when you use the shunt move, and only units moving as Jump Infantry test for dangerous terrain when landing in dificult.

The only tests that will ever occur when moving by teleport shunt are starting and ending the move in dangerous terrain, as all intervening terrain is ignored.

Jidmah - the question wasnt about intervening terrain, but whether a GK Shunt means you are "moving as jump infantry" and therefore, if you land in difficult terrain would count it as Dangerous terrain instead.

By definition you are not, as you do this instead of moving as JI and, additionally, do something JI cannot do - whcih is move 30"

Brother Ramses wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Darkjediben wrote:

elfmagic wrote:It comes down to if the shunt move counts as them using their jet pack.

It doesn't matter if the shunt counts as "using" the jetpacks or not. Jetpack infantry cannot choose to not be jump pack infantry by moving in a different way. If jump pack infantry begin or END (ie at the end of a shunt) their move in terrain, they take a DT test. Period.

And yet the rulebook tells us that you can choose to walk instead of jumping, thus ignoring the DT test.

Not saying that they don't have to test, but the idea that JI always have to take DT test is false.

Is Shunting walking? Then you take the test.

As Nos said, is shunting jumping?

nosferatu1001 wrote:Jidmah - the question wasnt about intervening terrain, but whether a GK Shunt means you are "moving as jump infantry" and therefore, if you land in difficult terrain would count it as Dangerous terrain instead.

By definition you are not, as you do this instead of moving as JI and, additionally, do something JI cannot do - whcih is move 30"

As this results in you never taking a test in difficult terrain my answer basically said the same. The GK codex does not says it's a "jump", so it's not.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Jidmah - the question wasnt about intervening terrain, but whether a GK Shunt means you are "moving as jump infantry" and therefore, if you land in difficult terrain would count it as Dangerous terrain instead.

By definition you are not, as you do this instead of moving as JI and, additionally, do something JI cannot do - whcih is move 30"

You've got it backwards, Nos.

Jump Infantry take the test by default, regardless of whether they are moving as jump infantry. They only have permission to avoid the test if they choose to walk. Since shunting is not walking, it still subjects the model to the Dang. Ter. test.

I would lean toward the Dang Test if the move ends in Difficult terrain as the rules seem to be trying to tell us on page 28 that that Units with Personal Teleporters are Jump Infantry , I guess this is only during the shunt as Page 93 Interceptor Entry just names the type as Infantry .

This is extrapolation on my part

Mann - all those rules are contained within "when using Jump Packs..."

If youre not using your jump packs to make your 12" move, you dont fall into the criteria for taking terrain tests.

"MOVEMENT
Jump infantry can use their jump packs (or equivalent) and move up to 12" in the Movement phase. This is optional and they can choose to move as normal infantry if they wish...

However, if a moving jump infantry model begins or ends its move in difficult terrain, it must take a dangerous terrain test."

Did the JI begin it's move in Difficult Terrain? Has it elected to move as infantry? If yes and no then one must take a test, as one is moving JI. The only thing that removes the Terrain test clause from JI movement is to elect to move as infantry.

As ChrisCP said: The rules for jump infantry only allow them to avoid the DT test by choosing to move as infantry. Which Shunting isn't.

To be fair, shuntin is using their "jump pack"