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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/14 13:11:44
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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1 Librarian
Basic kit
Gate of Infinity and the Avenger Psychic powers
- 100 points
[2] 10-man tactical marine squads
Missile launcher
Flamer
- 340 points
[2] Razorback
- 80 points
[2] Vindicators
Siege shield
- 250 points
5-man Terminator squad
Cyclone missile launcher [or assault cannon?]
- 230 points
Now, the idea is that two Combat squads with ML stay back and overwatch their armoured cav. Co-combat squads with flamers, who move in razorbacks to engage the enemy at close range, disembarking and reembarking as needed. [comparable to the actions of a bradley tank in field.] The terminators will pretty much serve the same purpose as the two ML combat squads, pumping out enough firepower for one extra tactical marine squad + an extra missile.
The librarian will sit with terminators, moving them to the best possible location with Gate of infinity, and striking down Power armour troops with his avenger.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/14 13:26:29
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Not a bad list to start. Only thing I'd add would be Power Weapons to your Tactical Sgt's. Bare in mind too that without an Epistolary, your Librarian can't use more than 1 Psychic Power in a turn. Not that that should be a huge issue in a 1000 point game, but just good to remember.
Otherwise, your Combat Squad tactics are very similar to my own. I tend to upgrade the ML's to Plasma Cannons or Lascannons though. Plasma Cannons are great against enemy Elite choices, and Lascannons pack that extra punch against weaker vehicles. For only 5 and 10 more points respectively, they go the distance pretty well.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/04/14 13:27:07
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/14 23:59:36
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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What should I trade out for p.cannons?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 00:48:03
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Fixture of Dakka
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Scipio Africanus wrote:[2] 10-man tactical marine squads
Missile launcher
Flamer
Pfist for sarge, not PW.
Scipio Africanus wrote: Razorback
What gun?
Scipio Africanus wrote:[2] Vindicators Siege shield
Dozer blades pretty much do the same thing, for less cost.
Scipio Africanus wrote:5-man Terminator squad Cyclone missile launcher (or assault cannon?) CML since the Rending ain't what it used to be.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/04/15 00:48:26
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 01:13:48
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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This is one of the few lists I've seen that I can't really put a finger on any issues with it.
Something to keep in mind though is that with the way this list is written out, you're mostly playing at medium range (12"-24"). Be weary about armies that are faster than you.
EDIT: I'm assuming he means he has HBs on the Razorbacks as he didn't mention any change in wargear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 05:26:10
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Brothererekose wrote:Scipio Africanus wrote:[2] 10-man tactical marine squads
Missile launcher
Flamer
Pfist for sarge, not PW.
Scipio Africanus wrote: Razorback
What gun?
Scipio Africanus wrote:[2] Vindicators Siege shield
Dozer blades pretty much do the same thing, for less cost.
Scipio Africanus wrote:5-man Terminator squad Cyclone missile launcher (or assault cannon?) CML since the Rending ain't what it used to be.
Why a Power fist? He shouldn't be engaging anything too big, and if he does, it's likely that he'll get completely owned anyway.
Heavy bolters. Did I mention any changes? no, so assume basic [I'd assumed that'd've been a given.]
CML works better and keeps decent range. thanks.
Vindicators with siege shields... Gaming group with a tonne of terrain = lots of moving through cover. this I won't change, since it's only five more points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 09:55:10
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
England
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The reason for PF is you lack a lot of ranged high strengh attacks (i know, the MLs!).
And it means you can get things behind cover or if your ML misses or is busy.
They are also incredibly cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 10:05:43
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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PF is a must other wise you will get kicked by a dread for several turns funny to see that happen because grenades only hit on 6s and need what 6 to glance?
Might want to swap weapons on the razors assault cannons are always a win.
Maybe take a melta gun.... They are cool and give you a better chance to break open preds and such.
Maybe drop 1 vindi (even tho they are extremely cool looking and are awesome) but they wont hit till second turn if you go first so a las can can break them (dont get me wrong math hammer all you want I lost a baal pred and a vindi to las fire first turn (stupid oblits).
Maybe take a pred with las can sponsons.
Because 2 missile launcher is not a good idea to keep all your anti tank duties up to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/15 15:29:10
Subject: Basic SM list - Any and all changes welcome - 1000pts
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Bounding Assault Marine
Kamloops, BC, Canada
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I'd switch one of the flamers for a melta gun if you're gonna go charge the enemy then at least give them some thing to combat a vehicle if need be
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