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Stealthy Grot Snipa




I'm just wondering what sort of weapons would be allowed to be used in a dead hulk?

Autocannons, Assault cannons, Plasma cannons?
   
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no plasma cannons. only weapons that dont blow things up, mabye autocannons.

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Tali'Zorah: Hmm.
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare






Depends on the Hulk really. A dead Hulk, probably lots of close-combat and just normal weapons like Lasguns that are unlikely to cause damage to the infrastructure.
   
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flamers
   
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Devastator wrote:flamers




   
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So a Dread with HF? Any Dread weapons?
   
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InquisitorVaron wrote:So a Dread with HF? Any Dread weapons?


Usually you wouldn't have Dreadnought or any vehicles in Space Hulk boarding operations; it's mostly conducted by Terminators with Heavy Flamers and the like.
   
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Which I have, reading one of the BL's books there is a Dreadnaught in there. So HF or go Blood Talons?
   
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InquisitorVaron wrote:Which I have, reading one of the BL's books there is a Dreadnaught in there. So HF or go Blood Talons?


Yes, that seems reasonable.. or..


   
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Why is that dreads sarcophagus upside down?

Well inferno cannon would be excellent for space hulk but HF could work too.
   
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Devastator wrote:Why is that dreads sarcophagus upside down?

Well inferno cannon would be excellent for space hulk but HF could work too.


I'm thinking:

Dreadnought with Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer, Dreadnought close-combat weapon with Heavy Flamer.


@OP - Are you actually planning on making an army list for a special Space Hulk game or something?
   
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So your saying Assualt cannon with Underslung HF? Or should I go for Blood Talons?
   
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No I'm planning on making a list like that. You see my friend Is Nid's.

Sort of opens up whole worlds of Scenarios.
   
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Brother-Thunder wrote:That... was the most epic stop animation movie I have EVER seen!



   
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i am making a space hulk ive made my 8 terminators need my enemy and the rest of the space hulk needs built.

Tali'Zorah: I appreciate what you're doing here, Shepard.
Commander Shepard: Well, I care deeply about the quarian people.
Tali'Zorah: It's good to be back on the Normandy.
Commander Shepard: Let me know if it's too quiet for you to sleep, and I'll find you someplace louder.
Tali'Zorah: Hmm.
Garrus Vakarian: Uh, I was there when you two had your thing, remember? Just get a room and work it out. 
   
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HQ
Captain with Terminator Armour and Chainfist 155P
Elites
5 Man Terminator Squad one with Heavy Flamer and 2 with Chainfists 215P
5 Man Terminator Squad one with Heavy Flamer and 2 with Chainfists 215P
Sanguinary Priest with Terminator Armour 85P
Troops
5 Man Scout squad with Camo Cloaks and Sniper rifles 90P
5 Man Scout squad with Camo Cloaks and Sniper rifles 90P
Heavy Support
Dreadnaught with TL Heavy flamer and under slung Heavy flamer. 115P
Dedicated transport: Drop Pod 35P

1000P

That's the list, making the Drop Pod seem more like a boarding torpedo. If your wondering why Snipers it's so they have Night vision through their scopes.
   
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InquisitorVaron wrote:HQ
Captain with Terminator Armour and Chainfist 155P
Elites
5 Man Terminator Squad one with Heavy Flamer and 2 with Chainfists 215P
5 Man Terminator Squad one with Heavy Flamer and 2 with Chainfists 215P
Sanguinary Priest with Terminator Armour 85P
Troops
5 Man Scout squad with Camo Cloaks and Sniper rifles 90P
5 Man Scout squad with Camo Cloaks and Sniper rifles 90P
Heavy Support
Dreadnaught with TL Heavy flamer and under slung Heavy flamer. 115P
Dedicated transport: Drop Pod 35P

1000P

That's the list, making the Drop Pod seem more like a boarding torpedo. If your wondering why Snipers it's so they have Night vision through their scopes.


If you're going for something fluffy, I don't think scouts should be in the list. Normal Marines are also known to take part in boarding actions; it might be better to bring two assault squads without Jump Packs instead. Also, it's probably a better idea to give the Captain a pair of Lightning Claws instead of the Chainfist - his Terminators give enough S8 attacks, and there's no point wasting his Initiative 5.
   
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i agree with Darkvoidof40k. Why do you have a drop pod use a Stormraven.

Tali'Zorah: I appreciate what you're doing here, Shepard.
Commander Shepard: Well, I care deeply about the quarian people.
Tali'Zorah: It's good to be back on the Normandy.
Commander Shepard: Let me know if it's too quiet for you to sleep, and I'll find you someplace louder.
Tali'Zorah: Hmm.
Garrus Vakarian: Uh, I was there when you two had your thing, remember? Just get a room and work it out. 
   
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Drop pod 35P Stormraven 200P anyway I've got what i want now. Thanks.
   
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thats true.

Tali'Zorah: I appreciate what you're doing here, Shepard.
Commander Shepard: Well, I care deeply about the quarian people.
Tali'Zorah: It's good to be back on the Normandy.
Commander Shepard: Let me know if it's too quiet for you to sleep, and I'll find you someplace louder.
Tali'Zorah: Hmm.
Garrus Vakarian: Uh, I was there when you two had your thing, remember? Just get a room and work it out. 
   
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Very true



 
   
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I would say anything higher than an S6 would be a good rule of thumb when deciding what the strongest weapon you could bring with you onto the hulk. That's strong enough to take out anything that might be able to crawl its way into a hulk. (Powerfists and similar melee weapons excluded simply because they may be strong, but unless the marine just decides to wail on support beams for fun, won't be doing any damage to the ship.)

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If you're going for something fluffy, I don't think scouts should be in the list.


Why not? Scouts often lead these operations. Advanced space crusade was almost entirely scout based and not that different form space hulk. The space hulk rules for regular marines included marines with missile launchers and melta missiles. I don't think you really need to concern yourself with hull breach rules that much if you are space marines. Power armor is fine in a vacuum.

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I vaguely recall a White Dwarf article from ages and ages ago for one of GW's "explore the enemy ship killing bad guys" games (unfortunately, I can't remember if it was Space Hulk, Advanced Space Crusade, or Tyranid Attack). The article in question contained rules for using the eldar in the game, as well as a points-based system for building an eldar combat group. At the extreme end of the list points-wise, the eldar had the option to include a wraithlord with their force.

Make of that what you will.
   
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Hmmm, so In other words anything that might make a small breach is fine for marines. The only problem is the scouts.

(This won't be played on a space hulk, just want to give it that feel. Unless I can get my hands on one, or if I make a seperate board Hulk)
   
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InquisitorVaron wrote:Hmmm, so In other words anything that might make a small breach is fine for marines. The only problem is the scouts.

(This won't be played on a space hulk, just want to give it that feel. Unless I can get my hands on one, or if I make a seperate board Hulk)


Even scouts are fine. The old rules were that they counted as having sealed suits. I don't think they ever made a mini with a helmet, but I do have a very old one with a respirator, but I'm sure they have them.



If you are doing it for fluff sake, you might want to have some areas where is illegal to shoot as it would cause real problems. Like in aliens they didn't want to hit the reactor coolant lines. Remember marines are basically meant for boarding actions. It wouldn't make sense for them to be bad at it. The only race I could see having issues fluff wise would be IG, and you can assume that any IG that participate in a boarding action would be kitted with sealed suits.

Orks, nids, crons, eldar, most everything else is fine in a vacuum either because of physical resistance and or equipment. I would assume most boarding missions take place in a vacuum as a boarding torpedo or such is going to allow the atmosphere to vent already anyway.

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"No, sorry, synonymous does not mean same".-Dogma

"If I say "I will hug you" I am threatening you" -Dogma 
   
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Ok then, so It's perfectly legit list that seems like a Space Hulk unit? Perfect. I might sculpt some rebreathers? Or try and find someone who's done that.
   
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InquisitorVaron wrote:Ok then, so It's perfectly legit list that seems like a Space Hulk unit? Perfect. I might sculpt some rebreathers? Or try and find someone who's done that.


IG command sprue has separate respirators, or lots of helmetless marine heads have respirators. The dread might be a problem in corridors, but that depends on how you model them. They wont fit on a space hulk corridor tile from the game.

From playing 40k on a multiple space hulk boards I will tell you this, you will not find a better unit then thunder hammer storm shield terminators. It's all about assault. You cannot trace to much LOS in those corridors.

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I did say that I won't be always playing on a Hulk board.
   
 
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