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Can Inquisitors from Codex: Grey Knights take Inquisitorial Valkyries?

I would assume yes because the rules say nothing about codexes only that "The Valkyrie is a dedicated transport choice for an Inquisitor and his retinue or Inqusitorial Storm Troopers." Storm Troopers are gone, but Inquisitors are still here.

Secondly, the rules clearly state the "Inquisitor and his retinue" does this mean a Inquisitorial Henchman Warbard can't be placed in because they aren't a "retinue?" and Valkyries are a dedicated transport.

A final note, I think this has already been answered, but to clarify, Grey Knights can embark into a Valkyrie and only take up one seat right?

Reference:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/i/IA2update28AUG.pdf

What exactly is an Inquisitorial valkyrie?

Where is this rule found?

Oh, it's apocalypse. Umm... don't you get to just do what you want anyway in that game?

Uhm, yeah. Feel free to field Inquisitorial Death Company.

To the OP, re-read your codex, then re-read your post, and then I think you can answer your question...

Inquisitorial Valkyries function the same way as normal Valkyries do except that they are a "dedicated transport choice for an Inquisitor and his retinue or Inqusitorial Storm Troopers"

Inquisitorial Valkyries, like IG Valkyries can be used a Fast Skimmers outside of Apocalypse.

The rules are available for free at Forgeworld under the name:
Imperial Armour Volume 2 Rules Update (v1.3)

This question was more for clarification and to see what everyone else thought.

Thanks for your speedy responses.

So you are intending to play an Apocalypse or an informal game with this?

You can't use apoc units and/or rules in normal games without your opponents consent.

This is intended for 2000 points games with friends. And Inquisitorial Valkyries are allowed for use in normal 40k Games. For those of you that bothered to check the provided reference, It says, that it is a Fast Skimmer and only in games of Apocalypse is the Valkyrie a Flyer with Hover mode.

As said, you can't use apoc units in normal games without your opponents consent. You can't use it if your opponent says no. Have you asked your opponent(s)?

It states in the rules that apoc units follow normal guidelines in normal games, perhaps you need to double check those. There are no flyers, so they become fast skimmers and follow all the normal rules for those.

The inquisitor doesn't have a retinue anymore, as per the listing in the GK codex. Enjoy.

acekevin8412 wrote:This is intended for 2000 points games with friends. And Inquisitorial Valkyries are allowed for use in normal 40k Games. For those of you that bothered to check the provided reference, It says, that it is a Fast Skimmer and only in games of Apocalypse is the Valkyrie a Flyer with Hover mode.

1st - have your opponents authorized you using forgeworld rules?

2nd - Inquisitorial Valkyries are not allowed in "normal" 40k games specifically because they are not in your codex.

3rd - It says inquisitors and their retinues. not inquisitors. not their retinues. Its says "Inquisitors and their retinues" Codex: Grey Knights does not have retinues nor inquisitorial stormtroopers.

4th - you shouldn't come on here and get snippy when at least 5 different people to the time to answer your question which is clearly answered on the page you posted.

Using FW units, as always, requires opponent and/or organizer approval. My group has always allowed FW units in regular game, excluding S.Heavy/Gargants/Flyers and units with 'Apoc. Marker/Template/D weapons. We like options and having fun with new units. So anyway...

1. Yes, Inquisitors can take Inquisitorial Valkyries.

2. While the GK don't technically have retinues, FW seems to imply that the Henchman Warbands could count as a 'retinue' (and it sounds like a reasonable way to play it out IMO). See the updated FW rules for Inquisitor Solomon Lok & Inquisitor Hector Rex, as they have 'Retinues' that consist of Henchman Warbands selected from the GK codex. Free FW PDF: http://lyris.games-workshop.com/t/73180/29604/4001/0/. Not official, but good enough for us in RAI/GAP land.

3. I'd say use standard rulings for models, allowing GK to take 1 'seat' and GK Terminators to take up 2 'seats'.

One of my opponents uses the Inq. Valkyrie and has a blast with it. I hope you enjoy yours as well!

Game on...and cheers!

Alright then, thank you everyone for your answers

Yes my local group allows Forgeworld

The most important question was the one concerning retinues and that was answered

The rest of the questions were also addressed.

I appreciate the answers and apologize for the rudeness.

Using official Forge World rules (ie non-experimental rules) does not require opponent consent - however, your opponent may always choose to not play against you... which is essentially the same thing.

The Inq'y Valkyrie is an Imperial Armour rule, not Apocalypse. Just have the rules with you and ask your opponent before the game starts so there are no surprises. It should be OK in a friendly game, unless they are practicing for a tournament. Tourneys are a whole other beast.

Homer

Arctik_Firangi wrote:Using official Forge World rules (ie non-experimental rules) does not require opponent consent - however, your opponent may always choose to not play against you... which is essentially the same thing.

Erm yes it does, they are not BRB or Codex rules so they need you opponents permission. Trying to compel your opponent to accept your Forgeworld rules is what is technically know as a dick move. GW don't allow you to use Forgeworld rule in their tournies and almost no one else does. Friendly games are all about consent.

Aramoro - wrong. Everything you do requires your opponents consent. Forgeworld is NOT special in that regard

You are also building a straw man there - nothing Arctik stated could even REMOTELY be construed to say he would be "forcing" his opponent to let him use FW rules. You just made that up.

The Answer is simply.

IS IT IN THE GREY KNIGHT CODEX.

If not NO.

Hello everyone - I happily play with a list based on the current GK codex.

I also field a Valkyrie and a Repressor, all without anyone having any arguments. I also mean for regular 40K games, not Apocalypse.

1) Imperial Armour 2 is still a current, valid rule book.

2) FAQ version 1.3 (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/i/IA2update28AUG.pdf) is the most current update to that book. It has not been superseded in anyway by either anything in IA Apocalypse 2 or any other book, published or FAQ'd.

3) Although there is no choice exactly worded "Inquisitor with Retinue" in the GK codex, there is "Inquisitorial Henchman Warband" choices which clearly take the place of the previously named "Retinue".

4) Although currently OOP, there was a Inquisitorial upgrade kit for the Valkyrie. GW have a policy of not making your existing models useless (now, see a Jervis article in WD a year or so ago).

5) The Repressor clearly was a choice for Inquisitorial forces, as you can see from the line on the PDF which states "It may be taken as a dedicated transport vehicle for Inquisitorial Storm Troopers or Adeptus Arbites squads". Of course we should never resort to fluff arguments but the Repressor is an Arbites choice and Arbites can and are requisitioned permanently and temporally by the Inquisition.

6) GW Continually state that in times of rules differences, use common sense. Common sense would say that no reasonable person would have a problem with a player using the rules, as written and fielding both a Repressor and a Valkyrie in a list based on the current GK codex. After all, both would only be in for fluff reasons, not power playing.

I have stated my case I suppose! What do you think?

Cheers

I think you should as your opponents, and if they are cool with it, then Game on.

Tetsugaku wrote:I have stated my case I suppose! What do you think?

I think that in stating your case, you have left out just what it is you are asking...

insaniak wrote:I think that in stating your case, you have left out just what it is you are asking...

Well I was posting in support of the original posters argument - that you can take a Valkyrie as a transport choice for an Inquisitorial Warband, many dissenters posted their opinions but as I was looking for opinions myself on the internets, I found this head and decided to add my theories to the mix.

Please don't post in threads that are more than one year old.