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Swarmlord has a 4++ in melee. It's derived from his parrying (innate ability?) with his Bonesabres (wargear?). Can a shieldbreaker take it out?

No, because its a special rule, not wargear.

Also, unless I missed something, the Vindicare in the new GK codex can't shoot things that are locked in Assault. The Vindicare in the WH codex can though.

Galador wrote:Also, unless I missed something, the Vindicare in the new GK codex can't shoot things that are locked in Assault. The Vindicare in the WH codex can though.

the something you missed is that All wargear generated Invul-saves are lost when the Shieldbreaker round wound is allocated; this means that even Invul-saves(again only those generated via wargear) that are only applicable in close combat are lost. The Vindicare would not have to shoot the model in question in Close combat to remove it's close combat only, wargear generated, invul save.

GKvGK can have a vindicare shoot the warding stave off of a paladin, for example; the paladin will still have the Stave for every ability excepting the 2++ in CC(also he would lose the termie armor 5++).

Kommissar Kel wrote:

Galador wrote:Also, unless I missed something, the Vindicare in the new GK codex can't shoot things that are locked in Assault. The Vindicare in the WH codex can though.

the something you missed is that All wargear generated Invul-saves are lost when the Shieldbreaker round wound is allocated; this means that even Invul-saves(again only those generated via wargear) that are only applicable in close combat are lost. The Vindicare would not have to shoot the model in question in Close combat to remove it's close combat only, wargear generated, invul save.

GKvGK can have a vindicare shoot the warding stave off of a paladin, for example; the paladin will still have the Stave for every ability excepting the 2++ in CC(also he would lose the termie armor 5++).

The more important part is whether the Swarmlord's invul save is granted by the wargear, or is it granted by a special rule that simply mentions the wargear in it's description? My call is that the save is granted by a special rule, so one would not be able to 'shield-break' his invul save.

yeah, no; Blade parry is totally an innate ability of the Swarmlord.

That is why I didn't use the swarmlord in my example, but rather a model that has a CC only invul that is granted via wargear, and more than 1 wound.

Besides I am not really sure how any Biomorph interacts with any rule that alters wargear effects(at least not the non-weapon, weapon biomorphs)

Kommissar Kel wrote:yeah, no; Blade parry is totally an innate ability of the Swarmlord.

That is why I didn't use the swarmlord in my example, but rather a model that has a CC only invul that is granted via wargear, and more than 1 wound.

Besides I am not really sure how any Biomorph interacts with any rule that alters wargear effects(at least not the non-weapon, weapon biomorphs)

Oh i completely understood your example, I was actually typing while pulling up a swarmlord page to check it myself.

And as usual, tyranids can be an odd case. I would personally play it that biomorphs are essentially wargear in this case. However I don't play nids or GK, so one could also argue that it's none of my business anyway!