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Just a question that came up in a game last night, should be a quick answer...
Do agonisers ignore invulnerable saves?
and also, do huskblades?

No, only if the weapon explicitly states it does (like Warscythes) are invulnerable saves ignored.

Thanks for the snappy response.

Agonizer = No saves allowed, period

Huskblade is just a power weapon that causes instant death, so yes invul allowed.

BlueDagger wrote:Agonizer = No saves allowed, period

Not sure where this is coming from, but Agonisers are just power weapons with a fixed wound roll.

BlueDagger wrote:Agonizer = No saves allowed, period

Incorrect. It does not explicitly deny invulnerable saves, therefore you stil get them.

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um.... read the codex?

here: have some page/paragrahph numbers.


agonizer: page 56 DE dex, first entry.

huskblade: page 58 DE dex, 4th entry from the top.

both are pretty much fully explained in their entries, and refer to normal 40k rules. for additonal reading:

brb page 42, second header first entry. - "power weapons"

if furthar clarification is needed, please don the "derp hat" and re read the above.

where is my facepalm pic when i need it?


edit: added facepalm for augustus

I added the facepalm for you DarthSpader.

this works too

DarthSpader wrote:um.... read the codex?

here: have some page/paragrahph numbers.


agonizer: page 56 DE dex, first entry.

huskblade: page 58 DE dex, 4th entry from the top.

both are pretty much fully explained in their entries, and refer to normal 40k rules. for additonal reading:

brb page 42, second header first entry. - "power weapons"

if furthar clarification is needed, please don the "derp hat" and re read the above.

where is my facepalm pic when i need it?


edit: added facepalm for augustus

I wasnt the DE player.
If I owned the codex, I would.

DE player should have had the codex on hand, and you should have asked.

Anytime a rule doesn't sound right, you should ask to see it.

BlueDagger wrote:Agonizer = No saves allowed, period

Dark Eldar Codex, page 56 wrote:Agonizers are power weapons that always wound on a 4+.

Stating no saves makes it sound like they ignore invulnerable, which they absolutely don't.