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Cackling Chaos Conscript





Great falls, MT

here is my semi competitive list

HQ-Rune Preist/LL/Jaws/=100p
HQ-Rune Priest/LL/TC/=100p
Elite-Dreadnought/TL auto cannon replacing combat arm/Drop pod/=150p
Elite-Wolf Guard x6/Termi armour x6/x1 Th/2x SS/4x Claws/CML/Land Raider Crusader/MM/=540p
Troop-Grey Hunters x5/PG/Razorback/TL lass/=160p
Troop-Grey Hunters x5/PG/Razorback/TL lass/=160p
Troop-Grey Hunters x5/PG/Razorback/TL lass/=160p
Troop-Blood claws x5/Razorback/TL lass/=150p
Heavy-Long Fangs x5/4x ML/Razorback/TL lass/=265p
Fast-Land speed/TML/Heavy Flamer/=90p
Fast-Land speed/TML/Heavy Flamer/=90p
total=1965

1 run priest goes with the BC's and the other with the wolf Guard. i have had good luck with the 2 single Typhoons, everything else is self explained and used correctly with target priority. any thoughts, comments welcomed.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/04/28 00:43:17


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Cackling Chaos Conscript





Great falls, MT

anyone? :(

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You need to put a wargear on one of the RP to differenciate them (different spells AND wargears are needed).

Why are you drop podding the dread with such a weapon load out?

Not sure the blood claws will be any better in combat than a normal squad of GH....

Land Speeders are set up for long range.... why not add a HB instead of the HF for added firepower?

Not sure I like the list overall, did you give it a test run against something?
   
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader




Pacific NW

What gorium said.

Rune Priests need different wargear (give one a Chooser of the Slain; its a useful piece of wargear).

With the Dreadnought there is no point giving it a drop pod. 48" range can pretty much hit anything in line of sight.

Grey Hunters are more flexibile than Blood Claws, and Blood Claws are more vulnerable in hand to hand but they can only really do hand to hand. You're usually better off leaving them home really and taking more GH. Especially if you aren't taking many Blood Claws.

Personally I'd throw a Multi-Melta on instead of TWL for your Land Speeders but you got enough anti-tank with all those Razorbacks.

Rhinos would be nice for your Rune Priests. Technically you could give the Blood Claws a Rhino so a Rune Priest can pop out of it. Without being lead they can be a liability against a cunning opponent since they charge anything in range.

For this kind of list I prefer the one I saw a while back where the Razorbacks had twin-linked assault canons but that's me. Technically Lascannon plus Twin-Linked Plasmagun is better on them since they are two different weapons (won't get immobilized as quickly).


   
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Great falls, MT

k so i changed the BC's to GH but why cant the rune priest ride inside a razorback ? there not in termie armor and the squads are all 5 man allowing me to put 1 more power armor in each ?also will just throw runic armor on one to make them both deferential so tht they both hve deferential spellls/gear and yes tested against DE , CSM, necrons, the only prolb was the DE as im still very new to fighting them and have not read there codex :(

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/04/29 18:06:56


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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard






San Diego

They can ride inside the Razorbacks, but they cannot fire from inside because Razorbacks have no fire points, which means most people generally never put them in Razorbacks.

As for your list, it looks like you are trying to combine Razorspam with a Land Raider Death Star, which is not a great idea. I think you need to reconsider that Terminator unit in the Crusader. It's expensive and not overly durable, which is a serious problem for Wolf Guard Terminators in general. You would do much better putting a 10 man Grey Hunter pack with Arjac in a Redeemer than any amount of Wolf Guard in any Land Raider. Blood Claws are also useless in a Razorback, and you should replace them with Grey Hunters. There is no points difference, and the Grey Hunters get a Meltagun that can actually fire from within Melta range. Finally, the single Dreadnought is a liability in this style list. You would be better off replacing it with another pack of Long Fangs (Your current Long Fangs are actually priced improperly, and should be 190 points, not 265. I'm not sure how you came to that number.....).

If I were building the list I would do something like this:

Rune Priest (Chooser, Meltabombs, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane) - 115
Rune Priest (Chooser, Wolf Tail Talisman, Living Lightning, Tempest's Wrath) - 115
3 Wolf GUard (Arjac Rockfist, 2x Power Fist, 2x Combi-Melta) - 274
10 Grey Hunters (2x Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Mark of the Wulfen, Power Weapon) - 195
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino) - 170
8 Grey Hunters (Meltagun, Wolf Standard, Rhino) - 170
5 Grey Hunters (Flamer, Razorback w/ TL Las) - 150
5 Grey Hunters (Flamer, Razorback w/ TL Las) - 150
Land Speeder (Typhoon Launcher) - 90
Land Speeder (Typhoon Launcher) - 90
Land Raider Redeemer (Multi-Melta, Extra Armor) - 265
6 Long Fangs (5 Missile Launchers, Razorback w/ TL Las) - 215
Total 1,999

Similar composition, but Grey Hunters and Arjac instead of the Terminators. The Grey Hunters will be a far bigger threat, especially with Arjac leading them since he cannot be singled out in combat. The Rune Priests and the extra Wolf Guard are attached to the 8 man units in Rhinos, which provide mobile support for your Land Raider and Arjac. I'm wondering if another pack of Long Fangs with 4 Missiles and a TL Lascannon Razorback might not be a better buy than the dual Land Speeders, but that's up to you.

Anyway, that's just my take so feel free to use whatever you like and scrap whatever you dont.
Hope that helps!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/04/29 18:47:55


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Cackling Chaos Conscript





Great falls, MT

i like it all and apparently we have a tournament tommorow morning on the 30th 2k points + a 500 points reserve army going to try this list alrdy tested it once against a raider,termie heavy templar player with good fun and success. so ty for your help

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