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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/28 19:34:36
Subject: New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So I´m new to fantasy and rather new to 40k aswell (I´ve only played a year). Anyways I was thinking about Dwarfs since I really like the character and fluff of the army.
I like Thorek so i think I´m going to use with Karak Azul. As a sidenote how does their symbol look like, I can´t find it in the army book.
Well here´s my list:
Lord:
Thorek ironbrow 505 pts
Heroes:
Thane w. army BSB Runes: Master Rune of Valaya 190 pts
Runesmith Runes: Master Rune of Balance, Rune of Spellbreaking. 145 pts
Master Engineer Runes: Rune of Shielding 95pts
Heroes Total: 430
Core
30 Dwarf Warriors w Great Weapons and full command 325pts
33x Longbeards w Great Weapons and full command. Runes Master Rune of Grugni 504pts
Core total: 829pts
Special
Grudgethrower w engineer x4:
1x w Rune of Burning, Rune of Accuracy and Rune of Penetrating 150pts
1x w Rune of Burning, Rune of Accuracy 125pts
1x w Rune of Accuracy, Rune of Penetraing 145pts
1x w Rune of Burning, Rune of Penetrating 125pts
Special Total:495pts
Rare:
2x Organ guns 240pts
Grand Total:2499pts
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/04/28 19:40:07
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/30 00:24:56
Subject: New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
Fresno California
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Most people tend to prefer Hammerers to Long Beards with great weapons. Hammerers get better special rules and come out to less points as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/30 04:06:50
Subject: New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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You can't take 4 grudge throwers in a 2,500 point list.
I would take, in every army:
1) Rangers
2) Character with rune of brotherhood (to join the rangers), and rune of challenge.
That combo lets you deploy at the maximum charge range of an enemy unit, and force them on turn 1 to charge (failing 35/36 times) or flee. This can throw your opponents whole battle plan into disarray as the unit wheels sideways possibly blocking other units, or flees, creating a gap.
It's my only must have for dwarves, and it really is that good. The economy version (10 rangers + thane), only runes you 220 points. I've had it buy me extra turns of shooting.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/30 15:47:38
Subject: Re:New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Wraith
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I like that tactic, just plain mean!
Edit:
I noticed that to take both Rune of Challenge and Brotherhood you need to have two separate Runic Talismans. Are you able to do that on a single character? Army Builder won't let me, but we all know AB isn't perfect.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/04/30 15:52:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/30 17:24:07
Subject: New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Law of Runes:
1) You may have up to 3 runes on an item
2) You may only have a single master rune on an item
3) You cannot have identical items on other dwarfs.
I'd pick up an army book, it's pretty useful to have.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/30 18:26:11
Subject: Re:New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Paingiver
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Matt i want to try that tactic, anyway you can post like a picture with paint or something to show how this is done optimally?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/01 02:27:06
Subject: Re:New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Wraith
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I'm ok with not being 100% on obscure rules for armies I don't (yet) play, thanks for the clarification though!
Edit:
Aha! So it was actually my own doing... I assumed I couldn't add more runes to his talisman but AB was more than happy to let me (though blanking out the other Master runes, per the Law of Runes). As above, sounds very mean and very awesome and if (when?) I start Dwarfs there shall be a Ranger unit for this purpose.
Edit #2:
HawaiiMatt wrote:You can't take 4 grudge throwers in a 2,500 point list.
No? It seems Grudge Throwers are Specials, thought you could take up to 6 of the same Special unit in a 2500? It certainly doesn't come close to your 1250 limit on them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/01 02:47:55
Subject: New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Kirbinator, you're thinking of the composition rules for a Grand Army (3,000+) not a standard Army. At this points level, it's 3 duplicate specials, 2 duplicate rares.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/01 02:53:02
Subject: Re:New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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Wraith
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I knew something seemed wrong. I've been looking at too many 'ard boyz lists... I'll go back to my hovel now.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/05/01 02:53:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/01 05:11:32
Subject: New to Fantasy, thinking of starting Dwarfs, Karak Azul 2.5k list.
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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(off-topic): Do dark elves live in hovels? I thought it was a dark cave or lair or something, surely
As to reading too many 'ard boyz lists, I hear that!! Will be nice when it's behind us and no longer infecting our collective brains...
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