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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/02 14:44:54
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Stoic Grail Knight
Houston, Texas
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We had this come up in one of my games yesterday.
What happens, if during the course of declaring charges you declare a charge on a unit.
Later in the charge phase you declare a charge on another unit which choose to flee.
Now here is where the issue came up. The unit that fled the charge moved in between a charging unit and the target of the charge.
Now it isnt 100% clear in the rulebook how to address this problem (or we missed it). We just played it that the unit flees a second time...
Any Clarification?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/02 14:50:28
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Encountered this a number of times. You cannot make contact with an enemy unit unless you are completing a charge against that unit. So if there is no way to complete your charge because something will prevent you from making contact (impassible terrain, friendly unit, fleeing enemy unit) then the charge fails.
If I get a chance, I'll see if I can't get together some diagrams...
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“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.
On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/02 18:06:16
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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This is why the sequence is important.
Don't declare charges that might result in blocking more important charges, and declare in a sequence to give you the most options.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/02 20:51:11
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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But if done the other way, it's possible, right?
I.e., enemy flees from first unit, blocks second unit. Second unit declares a charge against it, it auto-flees, and then they test to declare a charge against the target they originally wanted to charge.
So if you declare the charges in another order, it's full of win... at least from my understanding.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/02 21:03:05
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes, thats fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/02 21:04:58
Subject: Re:Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Fresh-Faced New User
Albany NY
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You are correct, it is very important that you declare your charges in the proper order in 8th, I had a real hard time with it when I was first playing with the new rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 03:08:59
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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I've used the order of charge declarations to my advantage several times where I manage to get a gyro or rangers behind enemy lines.
I'll use a block to declare a charge on a fleeing unit with a block, see how far they go, and decide if I need to charge with something in the backfield to "bounce" the unit back in reach of the original charger.
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“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.
On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 03:15:34
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Dankhold Troggoth
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But won't the "original charger" have already resolved their charge, and failed it, by that point?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/03 03:25:49
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No; you resolve all charge *reactions* immediately, but move all chargers once all charges have been completed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/13 18:38:07
Subject: Unit flees a charge, and then gets in the way of another charge.
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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I don't know how many of my battle plans went astray in my early days because the dang cowardly enemy chose to flee from all my charges... stupid sneaky gits - it's just not cricket
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