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Hey dakka!

I am looking for some feed back on this list. It is a little unconvential for the BA's but I was thinking of it as a RazSpam List on steroids.

The basic points of this list are high AV, mobility, and fire power.

HQ:

Libby
SoS and UR

Elite:

Sang. Priests x2

Troops:

Assault Squad x5
Meltagun
PF
Land Raider Crusader

Assault Squad x5
Meltagun
PF
Land Raider Crusader

Assault Squad x5
Meltagun
PF
Land Raider Crusader

Fast Attack:
Baal Predator
AC/HB

Baal Predator
AC/HB

Heavy Support:
Vinidcator

Vinidcator

Vinidcator

So it comes down to 5 TL AC (20 Shots/turn), 3 Domolisher Cannons (Fast!), 6 Hurricane Bolters (36 or 18 shots/turn), and 4 Heavy Bolters (12 shots/turn) - anywhere from 50-68 Shots with 3 Ordance blasts per turn. All AV 13 or 14. However, the draw back is the low number of infantry.....a whole 18 models, but as the title says it is a Mech list and the strat would be to drive around shooting everything to bits and camping the LRC's on objectives.

Still have 25 points available. Thoughts??

Cheers!

Not bad. I'd drop the Baal sponsons and a Priest to get the points to take a third Baal w/o sponsons. Take Dozer Blades with whatever is left.

thanks Mr. E, always appreciate your input!

Lr redeemer anyone else enjoy a good firing and assault cannon are nice.
Put a mm on them because you have the points then.

Give 1 squad a flamer and drop the priests for another Baal pred with hb sponsons.
(if I did my math right if I did my math wrong keep the melta gun.

Just an idea 2 Baal preds and a mm hf squadron that's always good times and with all those big tanks no one pays much attention to the speeders.

Do you think that I even need the Sang Priests if I am going to be focusing on shooting rather than assault?? If so i could easily throw in another Baal Pred (minus the HB's).

I like the LRC better than the LRR as the hurricane bolters are considered defensive weapons so you can move 12" and fire both the AC and the Bolters. I do like the flamestorm cannon but I prefer the range to the template, well at least with this list anyways.

I don't think you need priests I would say tak the template because of it's ap that way welfare guns become a bit less of a threat to you and cover wouldn't do a tbin for you opponent.

I still think 2 or 3 speeders would kick @$$ because their speed and they pack a pinch and have armor.

LRR is cheaper isn it by 10 pts so you can put a mm on it to really mess things up

I'm not confortable with three Land Raiders, as they rarely kill enough things to justify their cost. And I think the Crusader is the worst of them, since hurricane bolters really doesn't dish out much firepower. Yes, you can fire all weapons while moving. On a normal tank, that would be a huge advantage. but with the machine spirit rule, on a LR this advantage is fairly limited.

I'd start by turning them into Redeemers, more effectives against troops in cover or light vehicles as well as mass horde extermination.

Even so, one LR is good to deliver that expensive melee unit you have. Two LR are good if you have two expensives melee units and that both would go down fast to enemy fire. But Three LR, to deliver three small melee units who could receive both fnp and jump packs, that's a waste of points.


I'm not confortable with 3 Vindicators, either. While they do have impressive front armor, it won't help them much is the enemy has some deep striking troops, or eldar eldritch storm, or tyranid deathleaper, any other sneaky way to shred a tank you can think off. Plus, their range is limited, and a single "weapon destroyed" roll will make them nearly useless. I'd use predators annihilators instead. More hits, more range, can still do it's job after losing a weapon, and more anti-armor firepower, which your army lack a bit, imho.