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When the Callidus Assassin reveals herself to inflict her special hits when deployed, and arrives 3" from the target model are the special hits resolved as coming from the C'tan blade using the C'tan blade rules?

No. The clue is in the fact it has an AP value, which close combat attacks do not have.

You cause the hits exactly as specified, nothing more.

Darn, wishful thinking I guess....

Even worse, you arrive using deep strike rules, so as I understand it the assassin can't move or assault. :(

but can shoot nural shredder though right?

You can shoot the turn you DS (or run).

I'd like to set her down right in front of green tide just once. Take out a Nob and then shred some boyz. FUN

nivondu wrote:I'd like to set her down right in front of green tide just once. Take out a Nob and then shred some boyz. FUN

I think you mean:

Set her down in front of a green tide, do D6 AP 2 wounds and a flame template to the unit almost certainly not killing the nob unless your opponent is crazy and then getting shot dead or assaulted (or both) and ending up an assassin flavored speed bump. Callidus has no ability to directly target a model.

pretre wrote:
I think you mean:

Set her down in front of a green tide, do D6 AP 2 wounds and a flame template to the unit almost certainly not killing the nob unless your opponent is crazy and then getting shot dead or assaulted (or both) and ending up an assassin flavored speed bump. Callidus has no ability to directly target a model.

*Rant alert*

All hail the new King of Assassins: the Vindicare! The way how the other Assassins were downgraded was really...disappointing.
Assassins without Infiltrate ? Callidus not being able to charge after revealing herself ? Fine. We get the message:
" do not use anything but the Vindicare".

IIRC the ability that allows for the D6 AP2 does target a model

but either way it was just a comment on how much i like the model.

Negatory. It is the chosen unit, not chosen model.

dang i'm learning all kinds of stuff thanks

I been looking at the Callidus as a elite/small cover save unit killer. Deep Strike in to the cover there using getting a 3+ cover save and making the unit assaulting I1. Now if he had Blind Grenade too, I wouldn't even have to think about it.

I have found that just make it appear in a bunch of armour 2+ models. ap2 hits. then ap1 template, Then instand death power weapon. You can take most squads out in one turn and easily make your points back. Downside is your normally in the middle of the army at this point so you get shot to pieces next turn. I know you cant assault on the turn you arrive but normally assassin survives at least 1 turn

A-P wrote:
*Rant alert*

All hail the new King of Assassins: the Vindicare! The way how the other Assassins were downgraded was really...disappointing.
Assassins without Infiltrate ? Callidus not being able to charge after revealing herself ? "

Checkout Kheradruakh, the Decapitator. He sucks even more! He arrives from reserve in a similar way.
He gains an extra wound, +1 strength, FNP and costs 5 points less
but...
he is T3(so easy to ID)
his ++ save is 5++ not 4++
his WS and BS are -2
-1 attacks
-1 initiative
not fearless
no hit and run
no D6 Str4 AP2 hits
much worse shotting weapons (Str4 AP4 assault 2)
he inflicts ID on a 6 to wound


wooohooo, go go special character!

Is it just me or is the Nueral Shredder being AP1completely pointless and just teases you making you think that you could destroy some vehicles with it until you read on and it says you can't, why isn't it AP2?

AP 1 is totally cooler than AP 2. If they ever get a model that gets a 1+ armor save, we'll be prepared. . .

I can definitely see models in super terminator armor with a 1+ save so plasma and lascannons do not deny a save (although 1 is still an automatic failure).

Also, AP 1 used to not matter for any reason (even vehicles) and now it is relevant. Whenever there is an extra and free under the current rules set ability that makes the unit potentially more powerful it is good.