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heamonculus with hexrifle 65 pts

2x kill kans 80

2 Crisis Suits w/ Missile Pods and TL flamers - 86 pts.

Wolf scouts with a meltagun.- 85.
i might not be able to catch you, but I can infiltrate close enought and then scout!

15 shoota boys - 90

dare ya' to infiltrate.

The Bringer wrote:15 shoota boys - 90

dare ya' to infiltrate.

Thunderfire cannon 100pts (in bolstered cover of course!) start running

MM/HF Landspeeder- deepstrike FTW. That's the problem with artillery...


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Oh, and 70 pts.

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:MM/HF Landspeeder- deepstrike FTW. That's the problem with artillery...


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Oh, and 70 pts.

how do flame templates work against artillery units on a hit 1-4 you roll against gun and a glance or penetrate kills) 5-6 roll against tech.

so aslong as you kill gun and stay out of range of tech or kill tech you would be fine

Yup. Template auto hits, I glance on a five and it's destroyed automatically, and the MM has a chance too. The other thing I could do would be to killt the tech priest (easy with a MM) and the cannon is useless.

@ MM/HF Speeder: 1 Hive Guard - 50 points.

@ Hive guard.....Predator....60pts

@ pred
Deffkopta, TL rokkits, Buzzsaw-70 pts.

Escalating again? N'waries, mate. 3 Long Fangs, 2 ML- 65.

@ Long Fangs.... Wolf Scouts 75

@ Horizon: Wolf Scouts are already on the page bro.

.....well that sucks. BA assault squad 100pts

Horizon9 wrote:.....well that sucks. BA assault squad 100pts

talos pain engine. 100 pts.

Banewolf- 130pts.

Omit previous post, was going at BA squad.

Against Talos=

1 veteran squad with 3 meltas-100pts

halonachos wrote:
Against Talos=

1 veteran squad with 3 meltas-100pts

i think the talos would still win that fight. 36" range with x6 TL,ap5 shots a turn. means you'd have to run x2 turns just to make range of the meltas. even then, you'd only average x2 hits and less than x2 unsaved wounds. the talos would get another round of x4 TL,ap5 shots and then a charge. (at which point your Str3 cannot harm the Talos anymore).

but say you shoot like a champ...

x12 Gargoyles with Toxin Sacs, Adrenal Glands pts. 96.

Painnen wrote:

halonachos wrote:
Against Talos=

1 veteran squad with 3 meltas-100pts

i think the talos would still win that fight. 36" range with x6 TL,ap5 shots a turn. means you'd have to run x2 turns just to make range of the meltas. even then, you'd only average x2 hits and less than x2 unsaved wounds. the talos would get another round of x4 TL,ap5 shots and then a charge. (at which point your Str3 cannot harm the Talos anymore).

but say you shoot like a champ...

x12 Gargoyles with Toxin Sacs, Adrenal Glands pts. 96.

I thought we were making the assumption that everything goes right.

What are gargoyle stats with the toxin sacs and glands?

3-3-3-3-1-4-1-6-6

12" str4,ap5
jump infantry
toxin sacs grant poison 4+ in HtH.
adrenal glands grant furious charge.
gargoyles also wound on a to hit roll of 6 in CC.

assuming the gargoyles can move, shoot, assault in the open they'd average over 10 kills on guardsmen. into cover and they'll only manage about 2 from range and another 4+ in HtH, winning combat by 2-3.

Alright, I'm going over your points, but a LR Punisher with a heavy flamer for 180pts.

I was going to say a pair of SW squads with a total of 6 flamers, but jump infantry with furious charge is deadly against IG.

Well, that's about double his points.

@ Punisher: 2x Broadsides - 140 points

DA Dread w/ Plasma Cannonand drop pod: 165

... the broadside would rip that to shreds.

Countering the Broadsides: Callidus Assassin - 120 points.

The Bringer wrote:... the broadside would rip that to shreds.

Yes and no. A straight up shootout will lead to the destruction of the dread, drop it in and assault the broadsides, I win

you drop in, you shoot the plasma cannon, probably take a wound off a broadside, aaaand then the broadsides pwn you.

@ Callidus Assasin
4 Raveners with Rending Claws 145

Horizon9 wrote:

The Bringer wrote:... the broadside would rip that to shreds.

Yes and no. A straight up shootout will lead to the destruction of the dread, drop it in and assault the broadsides, I win

Yes, but unless the Tau player were a noob, they would split those broadsides into 2 units so that even if you do assault 1, the other can pwn you from far away.

@ Raveners
Leman Russ Battle Tank 150